harryaldridge

There are undoubtedly some problems with the leadership but Nigel has been the biggest boos to UKIP and the cause since his election as leader. If anybody thinks the internal politics of UKIP is unusual and other parties are perfect then they are in for a big surprise.

I think a lot of so called problems are nothing of the sort. Things are blown out of proportions suach as the ashford call centre. GET A LIFE! Ok it wasn;t perfect but it did serve a purpose and it did enable us to sign up lots of new members in the run up to the 2004 european elections.

The problems within UKIP are small compared to the Tories or Labour. Let's get on with makeing UKIP a success ratehr than attacking it for not having got there already.

I have no sympathy for people who supposedly support the cause of EU withdrawal and yet are preapred to attack the party publcily rather than get on with the hard work of making it a success. It smacks of Ego vs Principle and i am pleased we are seeing these people leave the party.

ryansoton

The reason they attack the party on a open forum HArry is for the purpose of their own ego

Bluemerle

Harry, you will learn that the only thing you are there for is to keep Nigel and the other MEPs in their lucrative jobs long enough so they can retire on a nice fat pension.

ryansoton

Bluemerle,
If not UKIP then who?

UKIP is the only party that will work to bring our country out of the EU.
If Nigel and other MEPs get rich while doing this then so be it.

Attacking the party on an open forum just plays into the hands of the BNP and the Tories.

Since Nigel has become leader our media profile has increased dramtically which can only be a good thing.

Another good thing is that its not just Nigel appearing in the media we have Godfrey on the politics show today, we had Gerrard on BBC news yesterday and DCB on sky news the other week.

When our media want an alternative view to our government it is UKIP they turn to. We could not say that under Rogers leadership could we?

SGK

So how come after the conservative leadership battle the losers remained in the party and even received a respectable position? I think there are differences and they are very telling.

I don't know about this, but if it is true that only, what, 15% of donations went to the party, then this is serious, not trivial.

You make the assumption that support for UKIP and support for EU withdrawal go hand in hand. I don't. The BNP also support the cause, are you suggesting I should support them too?

SGK

Someone has decided that people publicising their resignation is the symptom of an ego and people have siezed on it; it helps to dismiss the situation. Do you, out of interest, consider that Nigel Farage is not driven by ego? Not even a bit?

ryansoton

To be honest I couldnt care less if he was driven on a gas guzzler.

With Nigel as leader we have already seen this party move forward with its media presence and also with the appointments he made at the national conference.

I didnt vote for Nigel but my eyes are open to the fact that he has moved this party forward and long may it continue.

SGK

But, if the party is making it worse, making EU withdrawal harder, playing into the hands of the pro-EU camp, then supporting no one is better than supporting UKIP.

Exactly. As the original letter on this thread points out, with that comes an enormous responsibility. UKIP are the ambassadors of EU withdrawal. If they screw up, they screw up our chances. It is a massive presumption to say that we should all support whatever they do because they are our ONLY chance. They aren't.

SGK

You should. You should also take care about accusing one person of having an ego and then saying you don't care whether another person does or doesn't. A bit hypocritical.

kernow

You echo my thoughts mark!