18 doughty street

mark starr · 14-11-2006, 05:35 AM

Re Nigel's 1 hour on 18 Doughty Steet on the whole it went well. He is as we know a good TV performer and dealt with most questions smoothlyand confidently, only looked rattled a couple of times especially re Ashford which he defended to the hilt and claimed that it had brought in 11000 new members (????). His views on combined PR/first past post, immigration, blue water between us and BNP etc were well presented. I would think we gained supporters.

mkpdavies · 14-11-2006, 06:08 AM

He took a risk going on their show, as the tough questions were bound to be asked.

So hats off for bravery.

BASILDON BOY · 14-11-2006, 06:59 AM

Good performance - appeared rattled about Ashford, £170,000 petition and being accused of stealing chunks of Conservative policies!

Agreed that local council bye-elections need to be fought.

Agreed with analysis that LibDems do well where they have a good local government presence (as an ex LibDem agree 100% with this tactic!)

Perhaps no more shameful episodes such as the Shoebury bye-election where the local branch just couldn't be bothered to stand a candidate in an are where UKIP candidates normally get 20% of the vote!

http://www.democracyforum.co.uk/viewtopic.php?t=15518

Nigel is doing his part - its for the rest of us to play ours now otherwise Nigel will just be let down by the party - UKIP is more than one man !

mkpdavies · 14-11-2006, 07:05 AM

http://cdn.streamcdn.com/cdn.asp?c_i...06-11-13_1.wmv

Watch it again here. 1 hour in.

jp · 14-11-2006, 07:16 AM

This is Iain Dale's take on the interview:

Quote:

UKIP Will Stand Against Better Off Out Tories

This evening I interviewed UKIP leader Nigel Farage for an hour on 18DoughtyStreet. To be honest I was rather more impressed him than I expected to be. He was quite open about the problems his party faces and the challenges it must meet. I'm still not convinced he has the answers, but he is certainly determined to make it more professional. I was astonished to learn it has a mere 16,000 members (down from a high of 27,000). UKIP's strategy seems to be based around attracting disaffected right wing Conservatives and...er, that's it. With Europe not high on the political agenda at the moment there's little else they can do.

Nigel made the astonishing claim that he expects UKIP to be the biggest party after the 2008 European Elections. He says they have doubled their vote in the last two elections and if they repeated that in 2008 they'd be on 32%. Yes, and my name's Shirley Temple. I took him to task for accepting £170,000 of taxpayers' money to pay for UKIP propaganda. He couldn't see anything wrong in doing this, saying that all the other parties did too. He didn't seem to understand that UKIP's USP is that they're not like the three main parties and not accepting this handout would help differentiate them.

But the top line from the interview was that contrary to popular belief UKIP will put candidates up against Tory candidates whatever their views on Europe. I had thought he had said they wouldn't do that to candidates who had signed up to the cross-party Better Off Out campaign. Nigel said that only applied to sitting MPs as candidates would say anything to get elected and then rat on their promises. Well, at least we now know.

http://www.iaindale.blogspot.com/

mkpdavies · 14-11-2006, 07:29 AM

Dale is a muppet. He's right at home in the Tories.

michael mcgough · 14-11-2006, 07:54 AM

Aren't the euro elections in 2009?

jp · 14-11-2006, 08:57 AM

Just watched the programme through. I thought Nigel was spot on. You do get the feeling that at last UKIP could get somewhere

I also thought the way the programme was handled by Iain Dale was very good. He actually asked questions and allowed Nigel to answer them!

Something of a contrast to the Paxman etc technique.

Does the comment on BOO show Nigel is also listening?

SponPlague · 14-11-2006, 09:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by michael mcgough

Aren't the euro elections in 2009?

Spot on, Michael :P

komerad · 14-11-2006, 09:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mkpdavies

http://cdn.streamcdn.com/cdn.asp?c_id=doughty%20media&mt=doughty%20media&fn =2006-11-13_1.wmv
Watch it again here. 1 hour in.

Unable to watch it live - thanks for the link Matt.
IMO, a very good performance!

14-11-2006, 05:35 AM	#1 (permalink)
mark starr Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 641	18 doughty street Re Nigel's 1 hour on 18 Doughty Steet on the whole it went well. He is as we know a good TV performer and dealt with most questions smoothlyand confidently, only looked rattled a couple of times especially re Ashford which he defended to the hilt and claimed that it had brought in 11000 new members (????). His views on combined PR/first past post, immigration, blue water between us and BNP etc were well presented. I would think we gained supporters.

14-11-2006, 06:08 AM	#2 (permalink)
mkpdavies Uber Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Woking Posts: 30,604	He took a risk going on their show, as the tough questions were bound to be asked. So hats off for bravery. __________________ http://brits4ronpaul.blogspot.com/ http://wokinglibertarians.blogspot.com/ http://lpuk.org My ignore list Labour, Blue Labour, Lib Dems

14-11-2006, 06:59 AM	#3 (permalink)
BASILDON BOY Senior Member Join Date: May 2005 Location: N'Djamena, Chad Posts: 1,722	Good performance - appeared rattled about Ashford, £170,000 petition and being accused of stealing chunks of Conservative policies! Agreed that local council bye-elections need to be fought. Agreed with analysis that LibDems do well where they have a good local government presence (as an ex LibDem agree 100% with this tactic!) Perhaps no more shameful episodes such as the Shoebury bye-election where the local branch just couldn't be bothered to stand a candidate in an are where UKIP candidates normally get 20% of the vote! http://www.democracyforum.co.uk/viewtopic.php?t=15518 Nigel is doing his part - its for the rest of us to play ours now otherwise Nigel will just be let down by the party - UKIP is more than one man ! __________________ Mike Nattrass MEP is HOT HOT HOT!!!

14-11-2006, 07:05 AM	#4 (permalink)
mkpdavies Uber Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Woking Posts: 30,604	http://cdn.streamcdn.com/cdn.asp?c_i...06-11-13_1.wmv Watch it again here. 1 hour in. __________________ http://brits4ronpaul.blogspot.com/ http://wokinglibertarians.blogspot.com/ http://lpuk.org My ignore list Labour, Blue Labour, Lib Dems

14-11-2006, 07:29 AM	#6 (permalink)
mkpdavies Uber Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Woking Posts: 30,604	Dale is a muppet. He's right at home in the Tories. __________________ http://brits4ronpaul.blogspot.com/ http://wokinglibertarians.blogspot.com/ http://lpuk.org My ignore list Labour, Blue Labour, Lib Dems

14-11-2006, 07:54 AM	#7 (permalink)
michael mcgough Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Essex Posts: 641	Aren't the euro elections in 2009?

14-11-2006, 08:57 AM	#8 (permalink)
jp Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 1,000	Just watched the programme through. I thought Nigel was spot on. You do get the feeling that at last UKIP could get somewhere I also thought the way the programme was handled by Iain Dale was very good. He actually asked questions and allowed Nigel to answer them! Something of a contrast to the Paxman etc technique. Does the comment on BOO show Nigel is also listening?

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