Bluemerle

We have all, at some time or other, had contact with GLW, including Nigel. So what??

One Londoner

It's all a bit academic now that Nigel has fallen out with GLW (although I would still like to know why :shock: ) but the problem used to be (long before Petrina joined the NEC) that GLW had access to info about UKIP that even the NEC did not know. OK, I know, I know, the NEC are never told anything anyway, but I always found it very disturbing that GLW was often aware of sensitive matters such as forthcoming disciplinary actions (and often the outcomes :evil: ) even before the respondent had been told they were under investigation!

Things got so bad at one stage (2003, I think) that the NEC passed a motion threatening instant expulsion to any NEC member who leaked anything to GLW. Unsurprisingly, in the absence of phone records :wink: no-one was ever found out.

Niall Warry

Thank you Petrina for adding the above. The trouble is the paid officials in UKIP all appear to stick together for if one goes I think they fear they will all go

Hartlepool

I love this stuff,it's like a Charlie Chann film from the 50s.

Enter number one son,stage left,

Gizza break will ya....?

douglas denny

I would expect you to resign from the Party.

You took a hissy-fit over comments from Mike Nattrass the Deputy Leader and resigned from the chairmanship of the party when there was no need to as you were in a powerful position and should have ignored what he said. You resigned unecessarily from the NEC as well, which was stupid as you have no influence on events anymore within the NEC; and have done nothing but criticised people in it (and without) ever since. You resigned from chairing the conference which was pre-publicised with you as chairman and scheduled for only a couple of weeks later, throwing the whole thing into disarray. This was spiteful as there was no good reason you could not have chaired that conference.

Now you are ( and I know have been for some time - including when chairman of the Party) closely associating with a known vexatious person who hates UKIP and is highly damaging to the party.

You have also in the last 24 hours deliberately sent directly to the journalists Andrew Marr, Peter Hitchens, and Daniel Foggo and also the "Eurorealist" group, the details of exchanges between myself and GLW, which strongly seems to me to have the only possible motive of causing damage to UKIP. There was absolutely no need for you to send the e-mail to those people. It was addressed to me.

Resigning seems to be a penchant of yours Petrina:

So, ....why don't you do me and the party a favour and resign from the party right NOW and save me from bringing a complaint to the new Party Secretary for your bringing the party into disrepute - as I think it is clear there is evidence you appear to have deliberately attempted to damage the party in a manner which is likely to bring the party into disrepute, and in so doing you have transgressed the membership rules of the constitution in Para 4.5 which states:

"Members shall accept the Party's constitution and rules made in accordance with this constitution and do nothing to undermine the reputation of the Party or bring the Party into public disrepute. Nor shall they act in a manner intended to cause, or actually causing, damage to the Party's interests including by breaching confidentiality".


From the soon to be ex- Party Secretary (you appointed) to an ex-chairman,

without regards or predjudice,
Douglas Denny.
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Niall Warry

DD is simply unbelievable :roll:

Individuals can decide when and why to resign that is their right. Resignations are a legitamate instruement to use to express a point. Petrina acted with great dignity by not resigning she would have been endorsing individuals and a system she disaproved of.

Isn't it a pity DD has not not resigned rather than bringing his positon and Party into disrepute.

C_steam

Glass houses Douglas. Your posts are all on record.

douglas denny

I'm happy to be examined for evidence of deliberately bringing the party into disrepute. Where is the element of intent to damage the party in any of my posts? - as opposed to that which appears to be clear with Petrina's actions in sending all of the text of the exchnges between GLW (known UKIP hater) and myself, along with her admonition of me to journalists - one of which is the well known Andrew Marr when Nigel is to appear on TV only tommorrow?

Is this not likely to be damaging? is it not spiteful? is it not calculated? Does she not consort closely with the anti-UKIP provocateur GLW who has indeed in the past endorsed the assasination of the Swedish minister; AND promoted the armed insurrection of the lawful British government? What is she DOING consorting with this person? You judge.

My opinon of her has plummeted off the scale since I knew her on the NEC as a chairman of not brilliant qualities anyway compared to DCB.

I think she is a traitor to the cause and UKIP, and should immediately and unequivocally resign from the party forthwith if not right away - in fact NOW. .....No argument!
(Just DO it Petrina. You might just salvage some scintilla of respect I once used to have for you).

Douglas Denny
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C_steam

what a spiteful person you truly are.
(edit - original said 'spiteful 'man' - obviously it required changing)

douglas denny

But truthful and to the point ! Without any doubt!

Douglas Denny.