British Democracy Forum
Web | Images | Groups | News | Advanced
Google
Worldwide Results UK Focused Results

Go Back   British Democracy Forum > Anti-EU and Euroscepticism > UKIP General Issues


You can remove this advert by logging in or registering
Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 16-10-2006, 04:54 PM   #81 (permalink)
Super Moderator
 
C_steam's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: Paddling up 5hit creek.....
Posts: 7,788
C_steam is just starting out
Default

Quote:
They might actually get more done now that Farage has assumed control and installed a more autocratic system. The four headed monster (NEC/Leader/Chairman/MEPs) running the party was almost designed to cause the maximum possible friction.
Absolutely concur. I think the timing is right for a surge in interest and support for UKIP, and an 'aligned' UKIP with clear direction under an autocratic leader could well take advantage of this. I just wish we could see more people than just Nigel, but in these days of personality politics is that necessary?
C_steam is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!FuzzFizz It!
Reply With Quote

You can remove this advert by logging in or registering
Old 16-10-2006, 05:08 PM   #82 (permalink)
Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: London
Posts: 468
One Londoner is just starting out
Default

The media love to build people up only to destroy them when it suits. But that couldn't possibly happen with Nigel, could it? :roll:
One Londoner is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!FuzzFizz It!
Reply With Quote
Old 16-10-2006, 07:21 PM   #83 (permalink)
Banned
 
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: Fareham
Posts: 5,758
Party: Conservatives
Mikeuk is just starting out
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by C_steam
Quote:
They might actually get more done now that Farage has assumed control and installed a more autocratic system. The four headed monster (NEC/Leader/Chairman/MEPs) running the party was almost designed to cause the maximum possible friction.
Absolutely concur. I think the timing is right for a surge in interest and support for UKIP, and an 'aligned' UKIP with clear direction under an autocratic leader could well take advantage of this. I just wish we could see more people than just Nigel, but in these days of personality politics is that necessary?
I recently circulated several hundred copies of a newsletter deploring the way that Cameron is wrecking the Tory Party with his politically correct Eurofanaticism.

The response has been quite phenomenal. People have been phoning me out of the blue wanting to tell somebody how they absoluteley hate what is going on.

Nigel and David C-B were at the Tory Party conference earlier this month both looking very much like the type of Tory candidate that most traditional Conservatives would prefer.

The time is right to asset-strip Cameron's treason-gang.
Mikeuk is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!FuzzFizz It!
Reply With Quote
Old 16-10-2006, 07:42 PM   #84 (permalink)
Super Moderator
 
C_steam's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: Paddling up 5hit creek.....
Posts: 7,788
C_steam is just starting out
Default

which is fine - if you are a tory. I'm not, and a thatcherite - tory clone is not what I want UKIP to be. But I can appreciate some do, which is fair enough.

Quote:
Nigel and David C-B were at the Tory Party conference earlier this month both looking very much like the type of Tory candidate that most traditional Conservatives would prefer.
says it all for me.
C_steam is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!FuzzFizz It!
Reply With Quote
Old 16-10-2006, 07:52 PM   #85 (permalink)
Uber Member
 
eublues's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2004
Posts: 3,122
eublues is an unknown quantity at this point
Default

There's no harm in attracting Tories, but not if at the expense of turning anyone else off.
Of course, the Labour background of RKS was potentially a big asset ...
eublues is online now  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!FuzzFizz It!
Reply With Quote
Old 17-10-2006, 10:15 AM   #86 (permalink)
Uber Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: Reading
Posts: 3,486
Biscuitman is just starting out
Default

Clippo wrote:-

Quote:
or the 'old' Lechlade group planning to launch a new party and deliberately target UKIP or Veritas members?

Let me know please, I'd be very interested.
At every meeting held by the 'old' Lechlade Group we always stressed that we were against a rift, we would support Roger to the end of his term and that the party MUST unite under the new leader, whoever they were.

We started the 'roadshows' with the intention of convincing members that we needed to be multi-policy. Our first presentations were designed to argue the case for the same. However, we found that everywhere we went the members were already screaming for the same.

I say everywhere - that is apart from the one we did at Lexdrum House in Newton Abbott - the audience were split down there because of their support for Trevor Coleman's poster campaign on the single issue.

(We also contributed to the Berkshire County Forum, attended by Nigel. The Chairman of the forum had set an agenda, again to convince the members that we should be multi-policy.

The first thing he did at the start of the meeting was ask for a show of hands as to who was in favour of being a full blown political party - this was to an audience of mainly old crustys - he was expecting to have a hard struggle to convince them and intended to take another show of hands at the end to see how many we had won over.

To his amazement, the first poll gave 100% in favour of multi policies).

As a group we are pleased that Nigel has publicly declared that UKIP is to be multi-policy. The LG thus achievd its primary aim. As long as Nigel keeps UKIP to that path we will support him.

If it transpires that he is taking the pee and is just paying lip service to the members then other tactics will have to be employed.

The secondary purpose of the Lechade Group was to encourage those who attende dthe meetings to set up their own discussion groups - the idea being that two or more branches could hold forums to discuss ideas, the best could be carried forward to county or regional meetings and the best of those be passed on to the party chairman via the party secretary.

Unfortunately there just are'nt enough activists to take the idea up.

I would still like to see this happen - to give the grass routes a vox populis.

The LG was/is more a spiritual rather than physical concept. There was no formal membership - all meetings were open to all party members and invitees who could be vouched for.

Our meetings were attended by many party luminaries: Roger Knapman, Nigel Farage, Gerard Batten, Derek Clarke, Geoffrey Kingscott, Malcom Wood, Steve Harris, Steve Allinson, Lawrence Webb and many branch chairmen.

Whether we will take to the road again is open to discussion, we've had invites and I'd like to do a few but at the moment, as I said it is a watching brief for now.
__________________
IF THE EU WAS THE ANSWER, IT MUST HAVE BEEN A STUPID QUESTION!
Biscuitman is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!FuzzFizz It!
Reply With Quote
Old 17-10-2006, 12:08 PM   #87 (permalink)
Uber Member
 
mkpdavies's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2004
Location: Woking
Posts: 31,053
Party: Libertarian Party
mkpdavies has some supporters
Send a message via MSN to mkpdavies Send a message via Skype™ to mkpdavies
Default

Nigel didn't/doesn't like the idea of Lechlade, he thinks of it as a party within a party and doesn't think people should waste time talking to each other.

Therefore Lechlade should disapear while he is leader.
__________________
http://brits4ronpaul.blogspot.com/
http://wokinglibertarians.blogspot.com/
http://lpuk.org

My ignore list

Labour, Blue Labour, Lib Dems
mkpdavies is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!FuzzFizz It!
Reply With Quote
Old 17-10-2006, 02:31 PM   #88 (permalink)
Uber Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: Reading
Posts: 3,486
Biscuitman is just starting out
Default

Apparently the BNP aren't too keen on us either.

We must be doing something right.
__________________
IF THE EU WAS THE ANSWER, IT MUST HAVE BEEN A STUPID QUESTION!
Biscuitman is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!FuzzFizz It!
Reply With Quote
Old 17-10-2006, 02:56 PM   #89 (permalink)
Uber Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: North East England
Posts: 6,814
Party: Popular Democrats
Hartlepool has some supporters
Default

The Lechlade Group was and is a great idea,great ideas should not be dumped because some do not want them around at all.

If NF and one or two others had control of it,then,it would become theirs,and thus,a brilliant idea by their reckoning.

As it is,NF does not want it to succeed because it is out of his/their control.

Lechlade must always be available and ready to be cranked up at a moments notice.

Feel the freedom and dedication of The Lechlade Group,join it and have your say or just observe it's supporters and hear what their take is on our cause.

The Lechlade Group,dealing with the future and all it can hold and deliver for us in this Country.
Hartlepool is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!FuzzFizz It!
Reply With Quote
Old 17-10-2006, 03:36 PM   #90 (permalink)
Member
 
Benjaminw1's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: Isle of Wight
Posts: 325
Benjaminw1 is just starting out
Default

And you seriously want us anti EU folk to vote for UKIP?...

"Breweries" and "Organising a Good Time" spring to mind...
Benjaminw1 is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!FuzzFizz It!
Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On



All times are GMT. The time now is 12:59 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.7.0
Copyright ©2000 - 2008, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.

This site is owned and operated by MyCartel Limited © 2007. Hosting: BookFizz.
This site supports Label My Food and Politigg
My latest commercial site: Cell Phone News 2.0 - [Mobile version]

Mobile version

Politishop

eXTReMe Tracker
Search Engine Friendly URLs by vBSEO 3.1.0