Nigel Farage’s right hand man caught out in smear campaign

Anthony Butcher · 05-10-2006, 02:46 PM

I was recently contacted by a member of the Surrey Countey Committee who was very concerned about accusations being made about me by John Moran, Nigel’s right hand man. At a meeting on the 23rd September, John apparently stated categorically that I had mailed out copies of the News of the World article about Nigel’s alleged one night stand to UKIP members in the South East. The “evidence” for this was that the article was printed from this forum.

I sent the following response to the email I received to John Moran:

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Thank you for sending this to me. Obviously I am concerned that John appears to be making a very strange accusation, and more concerned that he is presenting it to a county committee meeting. I would be keen to know how many other people have been exposed to this nonsense.

John is absolutely right that it will have been printed off by someone using the forum, but it could have been anyone, including John, and any other unregistered visitor. It is just a web page like any other. The anomaly was caused during a server move, and is visible to everyone using the website. You can see that the original NotW article was reproduced without comment, as are most UKIP news articles:

http://www.democracyforum.co.uk/viewtopic.php?p=86538

The article clearly reads: 'Farage shares a house with wife Kirsten less than three miles from the pub. But Liga said the £59,000-a-year politician moved fast to get her INTO phpbb_bed'. That is visible to everyone reading the webpage, not just me, and would always print off with the phrase included no matter who clicked the 'print' button on their browser.

John is being either malicious or wilfully incompetent if he is claiming that only I could print this off and I would ask you to please pass this message on to everyone exposed to his silliness.

It also appears that John's claim isn't restricted to meetings, and is out on the Internet too. A former Ashford employee posted this onto the forum:

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http://www.democracyforum.co.uk/view...13885&start=30
A most interesting letter I received today.
Well - the content was not at all interesting but the letter itself was.

A campaign letter would you believe - unsigned with no return address.
Leadership election campaign letter that is.

The content was basically rubbishing a candidate.

A bit of detective work and the source was discovered - would you believe an N.E.C member? Or at least, it came from an N.E.C. member's computer which amount to the same thing.

Dirty trickies indeedy - also illegal use of membership database.

Heads are going to roll ... at least three.

And you know who you are - you deserve all you have coming to you.

I for one will be pleased to see the back of you.

You've been p*****g me off for quite a while now.
I don't take kindly being lied to - especially by a member of the N.E.C. and other members of UKIP who have an official capacity within the party.
I have been patient and my patience has been rewarded.

I do so love it when a plan comes together, don't you?

Clearly this is a reference to John's slanderous accusation.

Is John honourable enough to make a public apology and issue a correction?

Yours sincerely,

Anthony Butcher

I didn’t even receive a response from Moran, and have since learned that he has refused to either retract the lie or correct it. I see no alternative but to defend my name by posting details of this here. I tried to sort it out quietly, but Moran hasn’t had the sense or decency to apologise.

Given that the man is a proven and willing liar, Farage himself is also damaged by this kind of sordid association. This is just one of the reasons that Gill, myself and now Richard Suchorzewski have all resigned.

What astonishes me here is the sheer stupidity of it. Not only is it easy to prove that John has completely fabricated the story, but he is still attacking me after I have left the party. I went VERY quietly with just a brief explanation to those who had voted for me. I did consider writing a detailed exposé of all the corruption, lies, deceit and incompetence that I witnessed while on the NEC, but wanted to leave some hope for those members who have chosen to stay on in the party. I am reconsidering that position now, given that Farage’s assistant is lying about me publicly, presumably with Farage’s blessing.

One Londoner · 05-10-2006, 03:25 PM

You can safely assume, Anthony, that John Moran is acting maliciously in an attempt to smear you. He is also staggeringly incompetent in his allegations, which anyone with more than half a brain can tell are complete garbage.

He tried the same thing with me over the closure of the London head office in December 2003. He suddenly appeared on a UKIP bulletin board making absurd allegations which did not stand up to serious scrutiny. He was accusing me of planning to sabotage the running of head office which (had I been so minded) I would have accomplished without him knowing anything about it until the job was done

. The saddest thing to me was that a few poor simple fools were actually taken in by his blatant lies.

Don't waste your time seeking an apology from John Moran. He is shameless. Either sue him or move on.

Niall Warry · 05-10-2006, 05:24 PM

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Originally Posted by One Londoner

You can safely assume, Anthony, that John Moran is acting maliciously in an attempt to smear you. He is also staggeringly incompetent in his allegations, which anyone with more than half a brain can tell are complete garbage.

He tried the same thing with me over the closure of the London head office in December 2003. He suddenly appeared on a UKIP bulletin board making absurd allegations which did not stand up to serious scrutiny. He was accusing me of planning to sabotage the running of head office which (had I been so minded) I would have accomplished without him knowing anything about it until the job was done

. The saddest thing to me was that a few poor simple fools were actually taken in by his blatant lies.

Don't waste your time seeking an apology from John Moran. He is shameless. Either sue him or move on.

Yeah Moran has a barow boy mentality in my opinion. :wink:

One Londoner · 05-10-2006, 05:30 PM

Methinks you are unfair to barrow boys, Niall. :evil:

Niall Warry · 05-10-2006, 07:17 PM

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Originally Posted by One Londoner

Methinks you are unfair to barrow boys, Niall. :evil:

Fair point :wink:

spaman · 06-10-2006, 08:04 AM

All of this stuff is enough to make the average UKIP member enter total despair....... an election that should have united the party and brought a renewed purpose seems to have faded with the disclosures of dirty deeds - is Farage following Cameron in imitating labour in how they deal with the opposition, lies, slander and spin...?

Has UKIP been infiltrated by individuals who are out to destroy UKIP by creating internal strife...... the only answer is to publicise these actions and if it comes to a court battle that will do nobody any good, then just remember, your integrity is worth more than your life

Farage needs to be confronted and all lies stripped away... otherwise UKIP will implode.

Niall Warry · 06-10-2006, 10:59 AM

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Originally Posted by spaman

All of this stuff is enough to make the average UKIP member enter total despair....... an election that should have united the party and brought a renewed purpose seems to have faded with the disclosures of dirty deeds - is Farage following Cameron in imitating labour in how they deal with the opposition, lies, slander and spin...?

Has UKIP been infiltrated by individuals who are out to destroy UKIP by creating internal strife...... the only answer is to publicise these actions and if it comes to a court battle that will do nobody any good, then just remember, your integrity is worth more than your life

Farage needs to be confronted and all lies stripped away... otherwise UKIP will implode.

HERE HERE WELL SAID THAT MAN

brian lee · 06-10-2006, 01:23 PM

Spaman wrote

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All of this stuff is enough to make the average UKIP member enter total despair....... an election that should have united the party and brought a renewed purpose seems to have faded with the disclosures of dirty deeds - is Farage following Cameron in imitating labour in how they deal with the opposition, lies, slander and spin...?

Has UKIP been infiltrated by individuals who are out to destroy UKIP by creating internal strife...... the only answer is to publicise these actions and if it comes to a court battle that will do nobody any good, then just remember, your integrity is worth more than your life

Farage needs to be confronted and all lies stripped away... otherwise UKIP will implode.

In answer to your question about UKIP being infiltrated to cause internal strife, the answer is basically that it hasn't. However, the one person who has caused more internal strife than anybody else is the current leader. With our full support, or acquiescence, we can look forward to more of the same. He has been confronted plenty of times over the years and it is water off a duck's back. UKIP can only be rescued if he is out of the equation.

So he got more votes than anybody else, but look at the people who didn't vote for him. The Party needs them more than it needs him.

In any case, at local elections where UKIP can make an impression, it is the local people dealing with local issues that get the votes and the support for UKIP, and it doesn't cost a lot of money.

Bluemerle · 06-10-2006, 02:21 PM

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In answer to your question about UKIP being infiltrated to cause internal strife, the answer is basically that it hasn't. However, the one person who has caused more internal strife than anybody else is the current leader. With our full support, or acquiescence, we can look forward to more of the same. He has been confronted plenty of times over the years and it is water off a duck's back. UKIP can only be rescued if he is out of the equation.

So he got more votes than anybody else, but look at the people who didn't vote for him. The Party needs them more than it needs him.

You are right Brian, but NF will not release his grip.

Pat_Pending · 06-10-2006, 03:41 PM

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Nigel’s right hand

Isn't that the hand he wipes his bum with?

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05-10-2006, 03:25 PM	#2 (permalink)
One Londoner Member Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: London Posts: 468	You can safely assume, Anthony, that John Moran is acting maliciously in an attempt to smear you. He is also staggeringly incompetent in his allegations, which anyone with more than half a brain can tell are complete garbage. He tried the same thing with me over the closure of the London head office in December 2003. He suddenly appeared on a UKIP bulletin board making absurd allegations which did not stand up to serious scrutiny. He was accusing me of planning to sabotage the running of head office which (had I been so minded) I would have accomplished without him knowing anything about it until the job was done . The saddest thing to me was that a few poor simple fools were actually taken in by his blatant lies. Don't waste your time seeking an apology from John Moran. He is shameless. Either sue him or move on.

05-10-2006, 05:30 PM	#4 (permalink)
One Londoner Member Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: London Posts: 468	Methinks you are unfair to barrow boys, Niall. :evil:

06-10-2006, 08:04 AM	#6 (permalink)
spaman Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Kent Posts: 874	All of this stuff is enough to make the average UKIP member enter total despair....... an election that should have united the party and brought a renewed purpose seems to have faded with the disclosures of dirty deeds - is Farage following Cameron in imitating labour in how they deal with the opposition, lies, slander and spin...? Has UKIP been infiltrated by individuals who are out to destroy UKIP by creating internal strife...... the only answer is to publicise these actions and if it comes to a court battle that will do nobody any good, then just remember, your integrity is worth more than your life Farage needs to be confronted and all lies stripped away... otherwise UKIP will implode.