British Democracy Forum
Web | Images | Groups | News | Advanced
Google
Worldwide Results UK Focused Results

Go Back   British Democracy Forum > Anti-EU, Euroscepticism and European reformism > UKIP General Issues


You can remove this advert by logging in or registering
Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 06-10-2006, 12:31 PM   #81 (permalink)
Moderator
 
B.A.Ware's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Birmingham
Posts: 4,773
Party: UKIP
B.A.Ware is just starting out
Default

Quote:
They are gratified that UKIP under Nigel F will not stand against their BOO
candidates and thus take the heat off them at an election .I entirely agree with NF`s stance on this ,it is stupid to stab fellow travellors in the back be they Lib Lab or Con .
So i take it if any of the Lib/Lab/Con agree with our education policy we wont stand against them either.

All this does is re-affirm our reputation of being a protest party :evil:
B.A.Ware is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!FuzzFizz It!
Reply With Quote

You can remove this advert by logging in or registering
Old 06-10-2006, 12:44 PM   #82 (permalink)
Uber Member
 
eublues's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2004
Posts: 3,196
eublues is an unknown quantity at this point
Default

Surely we can be both a fully-fledged party but also be prepared to form pragmatic pacts with others in some circumstances.
eublues is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!FuzzFizz It!
Reply With Quote
Old 06-10-2006, 12:50 PM   #83 (permalink)
Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: London
Posts: 468
One Londoner is just starting out
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Petrina
Rest assured that the right wing Tories are delighted that NF won as he is a known quantity ,others were not.
You bet they are delighted, Petrina. They know UKIP will never pose a serious threat while controlled by Nigel.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Petrina
If he hopes to fulfil his potential as a catalyst for change he must now meet the demands of the right thinking members of UKIP and put our admin and funding etc on a transparent footing and also move to stop any unwarranted attacks on perfectly good people who have served the party well. As leader he should set up proper systems and then leave others to run them .
Sadly in this case past (and current) performance probably is a good guide to future behaviour. I hope I am wrong, but am not holding my breath :cry: .
One Londoner is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!FuzzFizz It!
Reply With Quote
Old 06-10-2006, 01:03 PM   #84 (permalink)
Moderator
 
Millennium3's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: Berkshire
Posts: 4,762
Millennium3 is just starting out
Default

[quote="Pat_Pending"]
Quote:

....I'm pleased you're still with us Petrina, after all the slagging off you've had to put up with from certain parties, and being Richards nominated deputy I feared, when I saw your name under this posting, that you were going to fall on your sword as well.

I'm glad to note that you aren't that principled and intend to continue the fight from within.
I would like to echo that sentiment. If NF does not make a decent fist of being leader [and there is some doubt that he wanted the job in the first place] I am sure he will resign quite quickly - he is not the type to grind things out. If he does well - excellent. If he does not - we do not want UKIP to implode so that the next leader has to waste their time just getting us back to where we are now.
Millennium3 is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!FuzzFizz It!
Reply With Quote
Old 06-10-2006, 01:21 PM   #85 (permalink)
Moderator
 
B.A.Ware's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Birmingham
Posts: 4,773
Party: UKIP
B.A.Ware is just starting out
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by eublues
Surely we can be both a fully-fledged party but also be prepared to form pragmatic pacts with others in some circumstances.
No we cant if we are a full political party we should stand where we can.Would you like to tell hard working activists in your area nobody can stand.

Not standing against BOO candidates is the most ridiculous thing i have ever heard, If i was a Tory MP in marginal seat i would sign up to it tomorrow so ukip wouldn't stand against me, it is meaningless people are not accountable to it and worst of all its against what the membership voted for in 2004.
B.A.Ware is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!FuzzFizz It!
Reply With Quote
Old 06-10-2006, 01:27 PM   #86 (permalink)
Moderator
 
Millennium3's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: Berkshire
Posts: 4,762
Millennium3 is just starting out
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by B.A.Ware
Quote:
Originally Posted by eublues
Surely we can be both a fully-fledged party but also be prepared to form pragmatic pacts with others in some circumstances.
No we cant if we are a full political party we should stand where we can.Would you like to tell hard working activists in your area nobody can stand.

Not standing against BOO candidates is the most ridiculous thing i have ever heard, If i was a Tory MP in marginal seat i would sign up to it tomorrow so ukip wouldn't stand against me, it is meaningless people are not accountable to it and worst of all its against what the membership voted for in 2004.
On another thread it was suggested that this was the price if we wanted Paul Sykes money - too expensive I would say.
Millennium3 is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!FuzzFizz It!
Reply With Quote
Old 06-10-2006, 02:27 PM   #87 (permalink)
Senior Member
 
ryansoton's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Southampton
Posts: 782
Party: Other
ryansoton is just starting out
Default

It will be interesting to see if Paul Sykes comes back on board.
ryansoton is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!FuzzFizz It!
Reply With Quote
Old 06-10-2006, 03:06 PM   #88 (permalink)
Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: Lewisham
Posts: 214
Lewkip is just starting out
Default Paul Sykes

Nigel said at the London leadership hustings that Paul Sykes pledged support to UKIP for the next Euro elections.
Lewkip is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!FuzzFizz It!
Reply With Quote
Old 06-10-2006, 03:18 PM   #89 (permalink)
Uber Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Dorset.
Posts: 3,252
Bluemerle is just starting out
Default

Quote:
Nigel said at the London leadership hustings that Paul Sykes pledged support to UKIP for the next Euro elections.
How convenient for Nigel and his fellow MEPs. He can keep his lucrative, but useless job in the puppet parliament. :evil:
Bluemerle is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!FuzzFizz It!
Reply With Quote
Old 06-10-2006, 03:33 PM   #90 (permalink)
Uber Member
 
eublues's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2004
Posts: 3,196
eublues is an unknown quantity at this point
Default

In relation to not standing against BOO candidates:

Quote:
On another thread it was suggested that this was the price if we wanted Paul Sykes money - too expensive I would say.

What then would Paul Sykes be aiming to achieve if he put funds into UKIP on this basis?
eublues is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!FuzzFizz It!
Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On



All times are GMT. The time now is 11:20 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.7.0
Copyright ©2000 - 2009, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.

This site is owned and operated by MyCartel Limited © 2007. Hosting: BookFizz.
This site supports Label My Food and Politigg
My latest commercial site: Cell Phone News 2.0 - [Mobile version]

Mobile version

Politishop

eXTReMe Tracker
Search Engine Friendly URLs by vBSEO 3.1.0