Richard Suchorzewski Resigns

Pat_Pending · 05-10-2006, 08:47 AM

A sad day indeed.

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and more to do with his association with GLW, a man who is despised by most sane thinking UKIPers?

This is the same GLW that Nigel claims to have a long term relationship with despite claiming that GLW is BNP?

That's three NEC members down plus the empty seat as Nigel moves across to the Leaders chair.

How many more of the NEC have enough integrity to resign before Nigel by passes them by putting his team in control of the party?

I'm waiting to see what happens at conference this weekend before making any decisions, I will listen with earger anticipation to what Nigel has to say about his dream for the future.

(Where's Lee Harvey Oswald when you need him?).

Bluemerle · 05-10-2006, 09:15 AM

I think a lot of people are now sitting on the sidelines and waiting to hear what happens at the Conference.

Not long now. :wink:

prober · 05-10-2006, 09:49 AM

It seems UKIP is firmly into a Stalinist purge era in which progressives shut up and take the long view or offer a vision and get burned. To make it worth staying in such an era the leadership at the conference must display a radical change in mindset and imagination, and a convincing and wide ranging plan to emerge from the wasted years of inaction and complacency and make UKIP a credible poltical movement able to inspire and make UKIP have both influence and be electable.

The conference agenda has huge gaps in that sense and wasted space but still has time for the leader to reveal a brilliant plan kept so far close to his chest including bringing in new people and requiring a much bigger and active role for MEP's in domestics ( or get deadwood to retire and bring in new ). Fingers crossed but keep your escape route open.

Niall Warry · 05-10-2006, 09:51 AM

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Originally Posted by ArthurC

A great shame.

But has it occurred to Richard that his failure to get elected as leader by the UKIP membership itself, may have had less to do with the antics of Farage et al, and more to do with his association with GLW, a man who is despised by most sane thinking UKIPers?
He should have known that the involvement and support of GLW and his little clique of madmen would be the kiss of death to any candidate.
Its not Richards fault perhaps, that he has been USED purely as a means of undermining GLW's ex-mate Farage's candidature, but he should have disassociated himself from Watkins endorsement right from the start.
AC

Most of what GLW has said is true. Wake up.

Niall Warry · 05-10-2006, 09:53 AM

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Originally Posted by mkpdavies

I don't blame him.

It's hard not to be bitter when you have to put up with the slurs he had thrown at him.

Still, just as Cameron is having a clear out of anti-EU, low tax, small government types at the Tories, so Nigel is getting a clear out of his own.

He now has 100% control and will be able to deploy his plan even more to the letter, with olny Niall Warry getting in the way.

It's no real big deal though. UKIP can write it off as a bitter lemons and it comes early enough for it to be forgotten by the time the elections come around.

If only I had that much influence I'm flattered you give me so much power

Niall Warry · 05-10-2006, 09:57 AM

You don't need to wait to conference to KNOW Nigel is after total control of the Party. He wants a neutered NEC control over MEP selection, to move Head Office to the SE to his own little power base.

Just wait and see if I'm wrong. :wink:

Millennium3 · 05-10-2006, 09:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Richardski

Dear Colleague,

It is with great sadness and after much consideration that I have today sent by eMail and Royal Mail to The Chairman of UKIP the following letter:

5th October 2006

Dear Chairman,

Please be so good as to accept, and post on UKIP.org, this my letter of resignation from The UK Independence Party.......

On policy issues, Nigel has made statements already, that make it clear to me, we are to become a shadow alternative Tory Party. A pressure group created to persuade the Tories to dump Cameron and change its policy on the EU. I am sorry; I did not leave the real Tory party to join a poor imitation......

I am not in a position to judge whether these complaints are valid or not, however, his reference to UKIP remaining a Tory pressure group is of vital importance. I agree that the signs are, so far, that this will be the case. NF needs to outline a convincing strategy, at the conference, which has the possibility of just a single UKIP MP being elected at the next GE.

If this is not the goal then UKIP will never have influence other than as a Tory pressure group.

mkpdavies · 05-10-2006, 10:03 AM

There is no point denying it.

UKIP is a Tory pressure group, but I would suggest it is more than that now. If the Tories don't respond to the pressure, then it will be a Tory replacement group.

I think that's a valid position to take, even if some don't agree with it. Sooner or later this country will look towards the solutions UKIP are providing to get it out of the mess it is decending into.

Whether UKIP will be a legal party by then is my question.

Petrina · 05-10-2006, 10:07 AM

A sad day for the eurorealist cause.There goes a man of energy ,ideas and ability. Lost to UKIP, maybe for ever.

Having read his resignation statement in detail I can see why he felt obliged to go before he was paraded at the Conference as part of a management team in which he had in fact lost all confidence.

kernow · 05-10-2006, 10:17 AM

I'm both disappointed and annoyed with Richards resignation letter being posted on this public forum. I backed him for the party leadership but now realise I backed the wrong man. I and thousands of other volunteers have worked hard for UKIP as we believe UKIP is the only true anti EU party Richard having a go at Nigel Farage on a public forum will not "hurt" Nigel but will do immense damage to UKIP, still perhaps that was the plan all along?!

05-10-2006, 10:03 AM	#18 (permalink)
mkpdavies Uber Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Woking Posts: 30,604	There is no point denying it. UKIP is a Tory pressure group, but I would suggest it is more than that now. If the Tories don't respond to the pressure, then it will be a Tory replacement group. I think that's a valid position to take, even if some don't agree with it. Sooner or later this country will look towards the solutions UKIP are providing to get it out of the mess it is decending into. Whether UKIP will be a legal party by then is my question. __________________ http://brits4ronpaul.blogspot.com/ http://wokinglibertarians.blogspot.com/ http://lpuk.org My ignore list Labour, Blue Labour, Lib Dems

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05-10-2006, 09:15 AM	#12 (permalink)
Bluemerle Uber Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Dorset. Posts: 3,252	I think a lot of people are now sitting on the sidelines and waiting to hear what happens at the Conference. Not long now. :wink:

05-10-2006, 09:49 AM	#13 (permalink)
prober Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 836	It seems UKIP is firmly into a Stalinist purge era in which progressives shut up and take the long view or offer a vision and get burned. To make it worth staying in such an era the leadership at the conference must display a radical change in mindset and imagination, and a convincing and wide ranging plan to emerge from the wasted years of inaction and complacency and make UKIP a credible poltical movement able to inspire and make UKIP have both influence and be electable. The conference agenda has huge gaps in that sense and wasted space but still has time for the leader to reveal a brilliant plan kept so far close to his chest including bringing in new people and requiring a much bigger and active role for MEP's in domestics ( or get deadwood to retire and bring in new ). Fingers crossed but keep your escape route open.

05-10-2006, 09:57 AM	#16 (permalink)
Niall Warry Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 603	You don't need to wait to conference to KNOW Nigel is after total control of the Party. He wants a neutered NEC control over MEP selection, to move Head Office to the SE to his own little power base. Just wait and see if I'm wrong. :wink:

05-10-2006, 10:07 AM	#19 (permalink)
Petrina Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: sussex Posts: 991	A sad day for the eurorealist cause.There goes a man of energy ,ideas and ability. Lost to UKIP, maybe for ever. Having read his resignation statement in detail I can see why he felt obliged to go before he was paraded at the Conference as part of a management team in which he had in fact lost all confidence.

05-10-2006, 10:17 AM	#20 (permalink)
kernow Uber Member Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 5,014	I'm both disappointed and annoyed with Richards resignation letter being posted on this public forum. I backed him for the party leadership but now realise I backed the wrong man. I and thousands of other volunteers have worked hard for UKIP as we believe UKIP is the only true anti EU party Richard having a go at Nigel Farage on a public forum will not "hurt" Nigel but will do immense damage to UKIP, still perhaps that was the plan all along?!