Anthony Butcher resigns

B.A.Ware · 24-09-2006, 01:48 AM

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I come to bury Butcher, not to praise him

You cant bury the truth :wink:

Simon Muir · 24-09-2006, 11:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Andrew Constantine

I would hope we are both "obsessed" with restoring parliamentary democracy by quitting the EU. My nation is that of England - what you slag off as obsession, others might call patriotism.

Note that if the opinion polls on the mood of the Scottish electorate are right and that mood carries through to the May 2007 Scottish elections (with the SNP and Scots Lib Dems thus able to form a coalition), UKIP might have to redefine itself anyway.

Good luck to the Scots, but why should UKIP hang around waiting for the Scots to jilt England?

I spent a fortnight in Scotland recently. The country of my ancestors apparently went communist some time in the last ten years, although I don't recall the revolution reported anywhere.

Everywhere you go in the Highlands, you'll see the dreaded garotte of barbed wire, proclaiming how another handout has been greedily accepted. Many of the projects I saw are economic nonsense, for example ski lifts in areas that don't get snow, badly-built harbours (for foreign trawlers to use), and "regeneration schemes" trying to artificially promote tourisim in places even the Scots don't want to visit.

The answer to the West Lothian question isn't an English parliament and more division. It's UNITY and simplicity. Kill the Welsh ass and the Holyrood horror, and go back to simple, accountable, first-past-the-post Westminster government, and accountable, small local government. It's the ONLY way to keep this country together.

You may be interested to know that the latest bit of fun up there is that the EU intends to break up CalMac, thus trashing the Islands' economy. http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/scotland/4239500.stm. Note that this news is a year old. I've yet to see UKIP make any comment (frankly it's a bit late now!). You couldn't make this up, but there is a story on UKIP.org about CalMac from a month earlier (http://www.ukip.org/ukip_news/gen12.php?t=1&id=1526), grumbling about the EU forcing new ferry orders to be put out to tender.

Talk about losing the plot! The big move (breaking up CalMac) is likely to mean a return to C19 transport services for some parts of the Hebrides. The main parties in Scotland dare not offer any sort of united front against the EU, so it's been left to individual politicians, and even they are reticent about what's really going on. An open goal for UKIP if there ever was one.

Scotland is fertile ground for us (at least the Highlands and Islands are), as there's nothing to counterbalance the sickening cancerous growth of incestuous government, bureaucracy and EU interference up there.

As for an English parliament, it's another case of 'because we EUrorealists can't/won't make ourselves attractive to the electorate we'll bang on about something totally off-the-wall, to assuage our consciences that we're doing something.'

Get real. There's a country out there desperate for the sort of common sense UKIP might tell them. It will be one of history's great tragedies that at a crucial moment the party was turned into an organisation protecting the incomes of its MEPs.

On the latter point I long to be proven wrong, but I'm not holding my breath.

Oliver · 24-09-2006, 01:12 PM

BA

Only up to his neck

Alex McKee · 24-09-2006, 01:37 PM

Simon,

Good to hear from you, and well said.

Alex

Oliver · 24-09-2006, 02:42 PM

I was going to say the usual, hero, stalwart ,good egg. sort of things.

But suddenly thought NO :!:

I hope that most if not all on this forum would do what Anthony has done over the years, given the wear with all.

And as they say, no one is irreplaceable.

It is for us now, to asses how to replace him and his contribution.

But, Thanks Anthony, for your efforts and colleagueship.

It is all far from over.

I must close, befor the Last Post Sounds :!:

brian lee · 24-09-2006, 02:47 PM

simon muir wrote

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Get real. There's a country out there desperate for the sort of common sense UKIP might tell them. It will be one of history's great tragedies that at a crucial moment the party was turned into an organisation protecting the incomes of its MEPs.

I am afraid that it is already one of history's greatest tragedies and there is not much we can do about it. Scotland may be desperate for the sort of common sense UKIP might tell them, but history also shows that the top of UKIP is sadly lacking in that department.

Johnny Hates Jazz · 24-09-2006, 04:59 PM

Sorry it did not work out for you Anthony

Thanks for the forum

Hope that will stay

Cheers

ED

Bryan Parry · 25-09-2006, 12:06 PM

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Originally Posted by komerad

Anthony - Very, very sorry to hear of your decision to resign from the party. No one has done more to try to advance the party, but unfortunately the same cabal have apparently managed to remained in power. :cry:
I would say that many more activists are considering their options at present. You & your comon sense ideas will be sorely missed.
I wish you all the best for the future.

Agreed. Altho I am an unimportant nobody member, I am leaving too, as I just can't abide being in this ineffectual party run by the same old guys as if it is some Disgruntled Tory Boys Club.

kernow · 25-09-2006, 12:19 PM

andypandy · 03-10-2006, 04:59 PM

Kernow, it is sad to hear when a party loses activists for reasons that appear trivial to some, but are often taken with deep regret and much personal anguish, was there any reason to bid Barry off in such a tactless manner?

24-09-2006, 04:59 PM	#57 (permalink)
Johnny Hates Jazz Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 1,976 Party: English Democrats	Sorry it did not work out for you Anthony Thanks for the forum Hope that will stay Cheers ED __________________ *English Democrats SAY NO* To European Union English not British** not European *- It's time to decide at the 2009 European Elections*

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kernow Uber Member Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 5,182	Bye!

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Oliver Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: WHITBY North Yorkshire (but my heart is in Woking) Posts: 1,062	BA Only up to his neck

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Alex McKee Moderator Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Gloucester Posts: 6,666	Simon, Good to hear from you, and well said. Alex

24-09-2006, 02:42 PM	#55 (permalink)
Oliver Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: WHITBY North Yorkshire (but my heart is in Woking) Posts: 1,062	I was going to say the usual, hero, stalwart ,good egg. sort of things. But suddenly thought NO :!: I hope that most if not all on this forum would do what Anthony has done over the years, given the wear with all. And as they say, no one is irreplaceable. It is for us now, to asses how to replace him and his contribution. But, Thanks Anthony, for your efforts and colleagueship. It is all far from over. I must close, befor the Last Post Sounds :!:

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andypandy Senior Member Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 880	Kernow, it is sad to hear when a party loses activists for reasons that appear trivial to some, but are often taken with deep regret and much personal anguish, was there any reason to bid Barry off in such a tactless manner?