Farage election

Britannist · 12-09-2006, 07:20 PM

Conservative Home have just started a 'discussion' about the election of Mr. Nigel Farage as leader of UKIP. The messages left include some from anti-UKIP people :evil: (i.e. leftists, liberals and europhiles posing as Conservatives :evil: ). They should not go unanswered.

It will probably turn into quite a long thread about UKIP - the last time the party was discussed at great length of Conservative Home was on 4.4.2006 when anti-UKIP and pro-EU David Cameron launched a verbal attack on UKIP - one which was later condemned by the Daily Telegraph in an editorial 8) .

No doubt, more messages will be left at Conservative Home during the course of this evening - and those who run Conservative Home say they will publish a report (about the election of Mr. Farage) later.

Please click below to read what is being said about UKIP:

http://conservativehome.blogs.com/to..._is_new_u.html

Torytruth · 12-09-2006, 08:55 PM

http://conservativehome.blogs.com/to...mment-22317936

Alex McKee · 12-09-2006, 09:11 PM

Merged two topics.

Millennium3 · 12-09-2006, 10:05 PM

I do accept that we must try to adopt policies which are not necessarily right wing - there are policies which are 'right for the country' but would not be classified as 'right wing'.

If we do this and are successful, we will take votes from both left and right, giving the Tories [the natural party for Ukip to join with if we have MP's and there is a hung Parliament] a continued chance of success.

Britannist · 12-09-2006, 10:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Millennium3

.... the Tories [the natural party for Ukip to join with if we have MP's and there is a hung Parliament] a continued chance of success.

I don't mean to argue but - in view of the very hostile verbal attack by anti-UKIP David Cameron on UKIP on 4.4.2006 I might suggest that, as a result of the criticism from the present Conservative leader, the relationship between UKIP and the Conservative Party has fundamentally changed (i.e. the Conservatives can no longer expect a UKIP MP or UKIP group in the Commons to back it over Labour).

There are some in UKIP who will feel that - as a result of David Cameron making a stronger attack on UKIP than he has ever done on Labour or the europhile Liberal Dims - UKIP may actually get on better (if it were in the Commons) with a Brown-led Labour Party.

The Conservatives under traitor Heath took for granted the votes of Ulster Unionists and did things which angered Unionists in Northern Ireland. The Unionists eventually split from the Conservative Party to sit in opposition to the Conservatives. In view of the clear hostility of the Cameron team to UKIP, I would suggest that UKIP might find a Cameron-led Conservative Party almost impossible to deal with.

Real Conservatives need to blame David Cameron for this.

Millennium3 · 13-09-2006, 12:25 AM

You may be right - but I think the core of UKIP members would feel more comfortable in an alliance with the Tories, whoever is their leader.

mkpdavies · 13-09-2006, 12:37 AM

Personaly, as things stand, I say **** the Tories.

I am back to wanting them smashed to bits while they have Cameron on board.

Indeed, I may even vote Lib Dem in my area to try and get them to lose.

I'm fed up of them being a straw man for the establishment. Until I see them radically change to something even close to my values, I actually see them as a bigger danger to Britain than Labour or the Lib Dems. They are preventing this country from having a real choice, so they are now back at the top of my hit list.

There is no such thing as a more pro-EU main party, there is no such thing as a small government main party. They are all the same, and until people realise this, including UKIP people, parties like UKIP will never get anywhere and the Tories certainly won't change. They need to be threatened with extinction and as nomad, that will be one of my priorites from now.

BASILDON BOY · 13-09-2006, 01:10 AM

All Heil the New Leader - Heil Farage.

No you must not vote LibDem - stand and campaign for the new revitalised UKIP under the Leadership of our GLORIOUS Leader.

All Heil Nigel - I backed the winner...

...after the votes got counted!

Mikeuk · 13-09-2006, 06:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mkpdavies

Personaly, as things stand, I say f*** the Tories.

I am back to wanting them smashed to bits while they have Cameron on board.

Indeed, I may even vote Lib Dem in my area to try and get them to lose.

I'm fed up of them being a straw man for the establishment. Until I see them radically change to something even close to my values, I actually see them as a bigger danger to Britain than Labour or the Lib Dems. They are preventing this country from having a real choice, so they are now back at the top of my hit list.

There is no such thing as a more pro-EU main party, there is no such thing as a small government main party. They are all the same, and until people realise this, including UKIP people, parties like UKIP will never get anywhere and the Tories certainly won't change. They need to be threatened with extinction and as nomad, that will be one of my priorites from now.

Good Thinking!

Cameron is the main enemy of this country right now. The slimeball needs to be totally trashed and humiliated.

Martin Harvey · 13-09-2006, 07:11 AM

The tactic that UKIP will need to employ when we get MPs elected to our Westminster Parliament, will be to encourage MPs of all other Parties to defect and join UKIP in order to form a group united in the fight to regain the supremacy of our Westminster Parliament. This would bring about the watershed of support that will achieve our aim.
Martin Harvey.

12-09-2006, 07:20 PM	#1 (permalink)
Britannist Uber Member Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: London Posts: 23,176	Farage election - europhiles posing as Tories get hostile Conservative Home have just started a 'discussion' about the election of Mr. Nigel Farage as leader of UKIP. The messages left include some from anti-UKIP people :evil: (i.e. leftists, liberals and europhiles posing as Conservatives :evil: ). They should not go unanswered. It will probably turn into quite a long thread about UKIP - the last time the party was discussed at great length of Conservative Home was on 4.4.2006 when anti-UKIP and pro-EU David Cameron launched a verbal attack on UKIP - one which was later condemned by the Daily Telegraph in an editorial 8) . No doubt, more messages will be left at Conservative Home during the course of this evening - and those who run Conservative Home say they will publish a report (about the election of Mr. Farage) later. Please click below to read what is being said about UKIP: http://conservativehome.blogs.com/to..._is_new_u.html

12-09-2006, 08:55 PM	#2 (permalink)
Torytruth Banned Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 80	They're discussing UKIP and Farage on conservativehome.com http://conservativehome.blogs.com/to...mment-22317936

13-09-2006, 12:37 AM	#7 (permalink)
mkpdavies Uber Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Woking Posts: 32,078 Party: Libertarian Party	Personaly, as things stand, I say **** the Tories. I am back to wanting them smashed to bits while they have Cameron on board. Indeed, I may even vote Lib Dem in my area to try and get them to lose. I'm fed up of them being a straw man for the establishment. Until I see them radically change to something even close to my values, I actually see them as a bigger danger to Britain than Labour or the Lib Dems. They are preventing this country from having a real choice, so they are now back at the top of my hit list. There is no such thing as a more pro-EU main party, there is no such thing as a small government main party. They are all the same, and until people realise this, including UKIP people, parties like UKIP will never get anywhere and the Tories certainly won't change. They need to be threatened with extinction and as nomad, that will be one of my priorites from now. __________________ http://brits4ronpaul.blogspot.com/ http://wokinglibertarians.blogspot.com/ http://lpuk.org My ignore list Labour, Lib Dems

13-09-2006, 07:11 AM	#10 (permalink)
Martin Harvey Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: West Essex Posts: 167	Farage election-europhiles posing as Tories get hostile. The tactic that UKIP will need to employ when we get MPs elected to our Westminster Parliament, will be to encourage MPs of all other Parties to defect and join UKIP in order to form a group united in the fight to regain the supremacy of our Westminster Parliament. This would bring about the watershed of support that will achieve our aim. Martin Harvey.

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12-09-2006, 09:11 PM	#3 (permalink)
Alex McKee Moderator Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Gloucester Posts: 6,666	Merged two topics.

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Millennium3 Moderator Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Berkshire Posts: 4,762	I do accept that we must try to adopt policies which are not necessarily right wing - there are policies which are 'right for the country' but would not be classified as 'right wing'. If we do this and are successful, we will take votes from both left and right, giving the Tories [the natural party for Ukip to join with if we have MP's and there is a hung Parliament] a continued chance of success.

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Millennium3 Moderator Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Berkshire Posts: 4,762	You may be right - but I think the core of UKIP members would feel more comfortable in an alliance with the Tories, whoever is their leader.

13-09-2006, 01:10 AM	#8 (permalink)
BASILDON BOY Uber Member Join Date: May 2005 Location: N'Djamena, Chad Posts: 2,063	All Heil the New Leader - Heil Farage. No you must not vote LibDem - stand and campaign for the new revitalised UKIP under the Leadership of our GLORIOUS Leader. All Heil Nigel - I backed the winner... ...after the votes got counted!