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Old 13-09-2006, 07:50 AM   #11 (permalink)
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The tactic that UKIP will need to employ when we get MPs elected to our Westminster Parliament, will be to encourage MPs of all other Parties to defect and join UKIP in order to form a group united in the fight to regain the supremacy of our Westminster Parliament. This would bring about the watershed of support that will achieve our aim.
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Old 13-09-2006, 08:06 AM   #12 (permalink)
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The Conservatives under traitor Heath took for granted the votes of Ulster Unionists and did things which angered Unionists in Northern Ireland. The Unionists eventually split from the Conservative Party to sit in opposition to the Conservatives.
I seem to remember the Ulster Unionists supporting John Major in the Maastricht Treaty's ratification in return for a concession on a Northern Ireland political issue. It made a cruical difference.
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Conservative Home have just started a 'discussion' about the election of Mr. Nigel Farage as leader of UKIP. The messages left include some from anti-UKIP people :evil: (i.e. leftists, liberals and europhiles posing as Conservatives :evil: ). They should not go unanswered.

It will probably turn into quite a long thread about UKIP - the last time the party was discussed at great length of Conservative Home was on 4.4.2006 when anti-UKIP and pro-EU David Cameron launched a verbal attack on UKIP - one which was later condemned by the Daily Telegraph in an editorial 8) .

No doubt, more messages will be left at Conservative Home during the course of this evening - and those who run Conservative Home say they will publish a report (about the election of Mr. Farage) later.

Please click below to read what is being said about UKIP:

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Currently stirring things... please do join in
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Here's one Tory who has stuck his head above the parapet.

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A top Tory has warned of "discontent" among the party's core voters and spoke grimly of the danger of "the yawning jaws of a fourth electoral defeat".
Edward Leigh, MP for Gainsborough and chairman of the powerful all-party Public Accounts Committee, had this message for the party leader David Cameron: "Going too far to attract the floaters is a very high-risk strategy."

And he bluntly told Mr Cameron that "freezing out" the Conservative right wing and the core vote could lead people to think there was no difference between the main parties.

It was the toughest public message yet spelled out to Mr Cameron from one of the "old guard" Conservatives as the party prepares for its conference in Bournemouth next month.

Mr Leigh spoke out in an article in the conference issue of the parliamentary House Magazine.

He said that the recent Bromley and Chislehurst by-election, in which the Tory majority of 13,342 plunged to 633, was a warning to those "who in their understandable enthusiasm to reach out to the margins, think we can ride roughshod over the core".

Mr Leigh said the reasons for that result went deeper than safe-seat apathy or Liberal "negative" campaigning, insisting: "We need a serious inquiry into this breakdown."

He went on: "We know there is discontent among our core vote."

Mr Leigh stressed that the party had never been frightened of a radical makeover.

He also hit out at politically-correct education, "PC hysteria" about paedophilia and health and safety, and said the party must support traditional marriage
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