The Axis of UKIP

BASILDON BOY · 03-09-2006, 06:50 PM

http://www.politicalsurvey2005.com/themap.pdf

Has anybody seen this?

And take this test:-

http://www.politicalsurvey2005.com/

Millennium3 · 03-09-2006, 10:18 PM

Very good - invaluable research for the new leader.

Don't like the fact that I have most in common with Daily Star readers on one axis.

Ted Bovis · 03-09-2006, 10:56 PM

It was too boring.

I am a political animal, but if I am put off by a dull thing that tells me it is 'page 1 of 38', imagine what that will do for Joe Public.

Stick in another 75 pages about the Bilderbergers, and 120 pages of criticism of EU legislation that was superceded 2 years ago, and you have a real UKIP policy document there!

But hey, who listens to me? I don't suck the bosses dick!

Millennium3 · 03-09-2006, 11:07 PM

Boring maybe but the research demonstrates that politics is no longer a left/right issue.

Last week there was an article in the Telegraph which showed that none of the existing parties appealed to 40% of the population. If UKIP had policies to appeal to these, we could win the next election without taking a single vote from the other parties!

Independent UKIP · 03-09-2006, 11:50 PM

I'm apparently about the same as 65.9% of UKIP supporters so I'm happy with that. 61.6% of BNP supporters are in the 'significantly to your right' category to me. Perhaps Mr Griffin should take the test & give up on trying to convert UKIP backers. 27.0% of UKIP backers are significantly to my right but 37.5% of Conservatives are significantly to my right according to the survey.

As a London resident it says 67% are to my left, 25% about the same and only 8% to my right so if UKIP has a mayoral candidate next time please don't have any great expectations.

mkpdavies · 04-09-2006, 09:58 AM

The fact this thing tells me I am slightly pro-war, is enough for me to discount it for the BS that it is.

Free markets = pro=war indeed. What a load of drivel.

smooveOp · 04-09-2006, 06:21 PM

...I'm not so sure.

My results were:

Quote:

Crime and punishment, internationalism
Your position on this axis is 1.3
You are likely to be slightly punitive and isolationist.

Economics, etc
Your position on this axis is 1.9
You are likely to be fairly free-market and pro-war.

which, actually, seems about right.

On the first assessment, 65% of UKIP supporters share my views, which has to be right although this was somewhat spoilt when the results recommended that I should vote Conservative! :shock:

Oh well.

Richard Allen · 04-09-2006, 08:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mkpdavies

The fact this thing tells me I am slightly pro-war, is enough for me to discount it for the BS that it is.

Free markets = pro=war indeed. What a load of drivel.

Indeed. How they make that kind of connection is beyond me.

Tom Wilde · 05-09-2006, 12:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mkpdavies

The fact this thing tells me I am slightly pro-war, is enough for me to discount it for the BS that it is.

Free markets = pro=war indeed. What a load of drivel.

I had the same! It told me I was slightly pro-war even though I had explicitly answered that I was strongly against the invasion of Iraq. It also had an axis from "rehabilitation internationalist" at one end to "hanging/flogging Eurosceptic" at the other (no hidden assumptions built in there, then :roll: ) and had me well over at the "internationalist" end even though I had also explicity answered that I strongly favoured British withdrawal from the EU. Wouldn't that make me a Eurosceptic?

The survey was compiled by a clown. It isn't worth bothering with.

Millennium3 · 05-09-2006, 01:01 AM

It might be that the profile painted of an individual does not match precisely because the answers to the questions are being pulled both left/right and top/bottom. However, if UKIP is deciding what new policies to adopt it does give a map of the proportion likely to be in favour or opposed to any new initiative. This, I would have thought, is a step forward from a left/right distribution and a lot better than no information at all!

03-09-2006, 06:50 PM	#1 (permalink)
BASILDON BOY Senior Member Join Date: May 2005 Location: N'Djamena, Chad Posts: 1,819	The Axis of UKIP http://www.politicalsurvey2005.com/themap.pdf Has anybody seen this? And take this test:- http://www.politicalsurvey2005.com/

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mkpdavies Uber Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Woking Posts: 31,053 Party: Libertarian Party	The fact this thing tells me I am slightly pro-war, is enough for me to discount it for the BS that it is. Free markets = pro=war indeed. What a load of drivel. __________________ http://brits4ronpaul.blogspot.com/ http://wokinglibertarians.blogspot.com/ http://lpuk.org My ignore list Labour, Blue Labour, Lib Dems

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03-09-2006, 10:18 PM	#2 (permalink)
Millennium3 Moderator Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Berkshire Posts: 4,569	Very good - invaluable research for the new leader. Don't like the fact that I have most in common with Daily Star readers on one axis.

03-09-2006, 10:56 PM	#3 (permalink)
Ted Bovis Member Join Date: May 2006 Location: Midlands Posts: 112	It was too boring. I am a political animal, but if I am put off by a dull thing that tells me it is 'page 1 of 38', imagine what that will do for Joe Public. Stick in another 75 pages about the Bilderbergers, and 120 pages of criticism of EU legislation that was superceded 2 years ago, and you have a real UKIP policy document there! But hey, who listens to me? I don't suck the bosses dick!

03-09-2006, 11:07 PM	#4 (permalink)
Millennium3 Moderator Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Berkshire Posts: 4,569	Boring maybe but the research demonstrates that politics is no longer a left/right issue. Last week there was an article in the Telegraph which showed that none of the existing parties appealed to 40% of the population. If UKIP had policies to appeal to these, we could win the next election without taking a single vote from the other parties!

03-09-2006, 11:50 PM	#5 (permalink)
Independent UKIP Uber Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: London Posts: 2,421	I'm apparently about the same as 65.9% of UKIP supporters so I'm happy with that. 61.6% of BNP supporters are in the 'significantly to your right' category to me. Perhaps Mr Griffin should take the test & give up on trying to convert UKIP backers. 27.0% of UKIP backers are significantly to my right but 37.5% of Conservatives are significantly to my right according to the survey. As a London resident it says 67% are to my left, 25% about the same and only 8% to my right so if UKIP has a mayoral candidate next time please don't have any great expectations.

05-09-2006, 01:01 AM	#10 (permalink)
Millennium3 Moderator Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Berkshire Posts: 4,569	It might be that the profile painted of an individual does not match precisely because the answers to the questions are being pulled both left/right and top/bottom. However, if UKIP is deciding what new policies to adopt it does give a map of the proportion likely to be in favour or opposed to any new initiative. This, I would have thought, is a step forward from a left/right distribution and a lot better than no information at all!