Peerage After the Leadership Election

Aardvark · 30-08-2006, 07:17 PM

Different issue - Blair wants to give NI to Ireland at some stage and wouldn't want peers sitting in the HoL after unification.

Richard Allen · 30-08-2006, 09:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Independent UKIP

The DUP have 9 MPs & are the biggest party in Northern Ireland. So long as Blair continues to refuse to let them have a peer then I don't think there is any hope of UKIP having a peer.

The DUP now have 3 peers.

Baroness Paisley of St Georges
Lord Morrow of Clogher Valley
Lord Browne of Belmont

Oliver · 30-08-2006, 09:57 PM

Thank you Richard.
You beat me too it!

Independent UKIP · 30-08-2006, 11:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Richard Allen

Quote:

Originally Posted by Independent UKIP

The DUP have 9 MPs & are the biggest party in Northern Ireland. So long as Blair continues to refuse to let them have a peer then I don't think there is any hope of UKIP having a peer.

The DUP now have 3 peers.

Baroness Paisley of St Georges
Lord Morrow of Clogher Valley
Lord Browne of Belmont

Thanks for the correction. In that case there should be some small hope for UKIP having a peer. My inaccurate assertion was made after looking here: http://www.parliament.uk/directories...omposition.cfm which does not mention the DUP, the 3 peers mentioned above are described as Non afiliated.

Oliver · 31-08-2006, 04:47 PM

Not long ago there was a DUP UKIP Alliance thread.

If We got a Peer (no, not a pee'r) Here is a place in which there could be serious co-operation a small group making sure there would be proposers & seconders for motions etc and to take pressure off just 2 or three.

Could be a major breakthrough.

Cant see Blair allowing it though.

Waka · 31-08-2006, 05:13 PM

Why does Knapman deserve a peerage? For the 10 anonymous years he spent as MP for Stroud? For the 2 years he has spent squandering time in the European Parliament? For the 4 years he has spent fronting a political party bereft of representation in the House Of Commons and registers single figure percentage points in terms of public support?

mkpdavies · 31-08-2006, 05:45 PM

Why did Neil Kinnock, why do any of them?

Percy the Poodle · 31-08-2006, 06:09 PM

Firstly all of you, we know these things aren't fair under Labour .

Secondly on a fair assesment Knapman doesn't deserve a peerage. Hissum total of political achievements include: being bought over Maasrticht with a 3rd whip slot, Losing a safe Tory seat and riding Nigel Farage to the leadership of UKIP and riding Robert Kilroy-Silk to a seat in the European Parliament. Sorry, he would struggle if he made a £1m donation to the Labour Party.

mkpdavies · 31-08-2006, 06:13 PM

Are political acheivements the only benchmark anyway?

Kinnock didn't acheive anything in any of the roles he had, yet he is a lord.

Richard Allen · 31-08-2006, 06:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Waka

Why does Knapman deserve a peerage? For the 10 anonymous years he spent as MP for Stroud? For the 2 years he has spent squandering time in the European Parliament? For the 4 years he has spent fronting a political party bereft of representation in the House Of Commons and registers single figure percentage points in terms of public support?

Knapman doesn't deserve a peerage but it would be to our advantage for him to receive one.

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30-08-2006, 07:17 PM	#11 (permalink)
Aardvark Moderator Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Oxonia Posts: 3,973	Different issue - Blair wants to give NI to Ireland at some stage and wouldn't want peers sitting in the HoL after unification.

30-08-2006, 09:57 PM	#13 (permalink)
Oliver Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: WHITBY North Yorkshire (but my heart is in Woking) Posts: 1,062	Thank you Richard. You beat me too it!

31-08-2006, 04:47 PM	#15 (permalink)
Oliver Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: WHITBY North Yorkshire (but my heart is in Woking) Posts: 1,062	Not long ago there was a DUP UKIP Alliance thread. If We got a Peer (no, not a pee'r) Here is a place in which there could be serious co-operation a small group making sure there would be proposers & seconders for motions etc and to take pressure off just 2 or three. Could be a major breakthrough. Cant see Blair allowing it though.

31-08-2006, 05:13 PM	#16 (permalink)
Waka Junior Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Crapham. Posts: 70	Why does Knapman deserve a peerage? For the 10 anonymous years he spent as MP for Stroud? For the 2 years he has spent squandering time in the European Parliament? For the 4 years he has spent fronting a political party bereft of representation in the House Of Commons and registers single figure percentage points in terms of public support?

31-08-2006, 06:09 PM	#18 (permalink)
Percy the Poodle Member Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: East Devon Posts: 362	Firstly all of you, we know these things aren't fair under Labour . Secondly on a fair assesment Knapman doesn't deserve a peerage. Hissum total of political achievements include: being bought over Maasrticht with a 3rd whip slot, Losing a safe Tory seat and riding Nigel Farage to the leadership of UKIP and riding Robert Kilroy-Silk to a seat in the European Parliament. Sorry, he would struggle if he made a £1m donation to the Labour Party.