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Old 26-08-2006, 12:57 PM   #21 (permalink)
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(Keith Hand)I also have a hunch who he may be.
You could allways interogate him into submission by the use of strong military tactics! 8)

How about something like Rock/Paper/Scissors?!!
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Old 26-08-2006, 05:56 PM   #22 (permalink)
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(Keith Hand)I also have a hunch who he may be.
You could allways interogate him into submission by the use of strong military tactics! 8)

How about something like Rock/Paper/Scissors?!!
We could certainly work a little magic by applying scissors to 'rocks' :twisted: :twisted: :twisted:
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Old 26-08-2006, 06:43 PM   #23 (permalink)
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Mike had every right to clarify the situation. Mike and his office had many enquiries as to the 'illegal' letter. Many were not happy and thought that Mike was endorsing 'ski'. THe WM committe exceded their authority in sending out the letter (they even used out of date data). The matter will be dealt with by the approprate means in due course.

AND FOR ROB: I'LL PUT THIS IN CAPITALS AS I HAVE SAID IT HERE BEFORE BUT YOU DON'T SEEM TO UNDERSTAND - IN THE NEW CONSTITUTION IT ALLOWS THE LEADER TO CREATE ANY POST HE SEES FIT - INC DEPUTY LEADER! GOT IT? Roger has and it is Mike

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Old 26-08-2006, 06:55 PM   #24 (permalink)
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IN THE NEW CONSTITUTION IT ALLOWS THE LEADER TO CREATE ANY POST HE SEES FIT - INC DEPUTY LEADER! GOT IT? Roger has and it is Mike
Nikki don't you think Roger Should have announced this.

And how have the WM committee exceeded their authority, i thought this was done democratically :?
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IN THE NEW CONSTITUTION IT ALLOWS THE LEADER TO CREATE ANY POST HE SEES FIT - INC DEPUTY LEADER! GOT IT? Roger has and it is Mike
Sounds a little like Hitler's infamous 'enabling act'

Does this mean the leader can create a bunch of new officers of his choice to outvote everybody else?
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Nikki can you explain the following


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The leader and Deputy Leader (me) decided not to put our names against any candidate.
If you read the information from the candidates you will see that the MEPs have put their names against either Nigel Farage or David Campbell Bannerman or are silently happy about either of these two.
Is this an underhand way of promoting Farage and DCB.

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I certainly do not endorse the person named in that letter
Is this not electioneering against Richard?


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Please just make your own decision based on the facts
And isn’t this a contradiction after the previous statement
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Does this mean the leader can create a bunch of new officers of his choice to outvote everybody else?
No, the officers don't sit on the NEC.
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AND FOR ROB: I'LL PUT THIS IN CAPITALS AS I HAVE SAID IT HERE BEFORE BUT YOU DON'T SEEM TO UNDERSTAND - IN THE NEW CONSTITUTION IT ALLOWS THE LEADER TO CREATE ANY POST HE SEES FIT - INC DEPUTY LEADER! GOT IT? Roger has and it is Mike
Are you sure about that? There has never been an announcement of the decision, no formal statement to the NEC and when I asked for clarification of the situation following the new constitution, Piers Merchant (Roger's personal assistant) also believed that Mike was no longer the Deputy Leader.

It is largely academic now because the new leader will be taking over soon, but it is a situation that could very easily have been avoided with a bit of communication from the top (i.e. Roger).
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Old 26-08-2006, 08:56 PM   #29 (permalink)
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The new constitution (which I opposed) remained silent on the matter of Deputy Leader. THerefore there was no express change. Piers retracted his comment. Without doubt the formal UKIP position is that Mike is Deputy Leader. All academic anyway as it will all change in a few weeks.

The Party database must not be used for campaigning purposes. The West Midlands Committee abused this. (albeit an old copy (17 months old - waste of money for some were no longer members). If they were confident in their actions why did they not legitimately request an up to date copy of WM members?

If this letter was not sent out Mike would have made no comment. However, hewas seen by many to support ski by the said letter

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Oh what naughty people the West Midlands C are, for having the audacity for speaking and printing their decision. Nikki I think its party time over - we now move on or fall. What are you doing?
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