A question to answer.

Niall Warry · 23-08-2006, 10:53 AM

I would like to get the forum's comments on whether you think there is a cabal operating within the hierarchy of UKIP and as to whether the UKIP MEP's have in the main gone native?

In my opinion the answer to both is yes.

Niall Warry · 23-08-2006, 02:33 PM

Surely the 32 of you that have viewed this must have an opinion? :shock:

John Page · 23-08-2006, 02:42 PM

Maybe we are stunned that you asked.

mkpdavies · 23-08-2006, 02:45 PM

Yes I think there is an old boy network, making sure the party is tightly controlled and IMH stunted.

No I don't think most of of the MEUPs have "gone native", some maybe, but not to a massive degree. What I do believe is that our party has been warped by the power these MEPs hold.

komerad · 23-08-2006, 04:05 PM

Niall
Question (a) Without a doubt - backslapping to keep their positions/allowences/salaries etc
(b) IMO, some have - some have not.

Ted Bovis · 24-08-2006, 12:56 PM

"Gone native"?

Developing an understanding of, and engaging with, the EP does not mean they have "gone native". It means they are doing their jobs.

Don't criticise what you don't understand.

Biscuitman · 24-08-2006, 01:05 PM

There is an 'department' within the EU civil service who's function it is to pour largess on MEPs.

From day one they provide limos too and from the airports/stations/functions; there are subsided meals at Michelin resturants; fine wines and a convenient circle of new friends.

The MEPs are compelled to submit fraudulent expenses claims, i.e. submit boarding cards for flights and receive a mileage allowance well in excess of cost for travel rather than the actual cost, (One MEP was, I believe, supsended for three months because he insisted on only claiming the actual cost).

It is all too easy for our MEPs, like all the others, to become beguiled by their new chums.

I think that by and large they are coping pretty well.

Ted Bovis · 25-08-2006, 09:56 AM

There are many ways in which the EU can be attacked, but repeating childish myths and semi-truths simply discredits us.

Biscuitman · 25-08-2006, 10:04 PM

Quote:

From day one they provide limos too and from the airports/stations/functions; there are subsided meals at Michelin resturants; fine wines and a convenient circle of new friends.

The MEPs are compelled to submit fraudulent expenses claims, i.e. submit boarding cards for flights and receive a mileage allowance well in excess of cost for travel rather than the actual cost, (One MEP was, I believe, supsended for three months because he insisted on only claiming the actual cost).

Quote:

There are many ways in which the EU can be attacked, but repeating childish myths and semi-truths simply discredits us.

I think you'll find that this is neither myth or semi truth Ted.

23-08-2006, 10:53 AM	#1 (permalink)
Niall Warry Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 603	A question to answer. I would like to get the forum's comments on whether you think there is a cabal operating within the hierarchy of UKIP and as to whether the UKIP MEP's have in the main gone native? In my opinion the answer to both is yes.

23-08-2006, 02:45 PM	#4 (permalink)
mkpdavies Uber Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Woking Posts: 30,615	Yes I think there is an old boy network, making sure the party is tightly controlled and IMH stunted. No I don't think most of of the MEUPs have "gone native", some maybe, but not to a massive degree. What I do believe is that our party has been warped by the power these MEPs hold. __________________ http://brits4ronpaul.blogspot.com/ http://wokinglibertarians.blogspot.com/ http://lpuk.org My ignore list Labour, Blue Labour, Lib Dems

24-08-2006, 01:05 PM	#7 (permalink)
Biscuitman Uber Member Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Reading Posts: 3,483	There is an 'department' within the EU civil service who's function it is to pour largess on MEPs. From day one they provide limos too and from the airports/stations/functions; there are subsided meals at Michelin resturants; fine wines and a convenient circle of new friends. The MEPs are compelled to submit fraudulent expenses claims, i.e. submit boarding cards for flights and receive a mileage allowance well in excess of cost for travel rather than the actual cost, (One MEP was, I believe, supsended for three months because he insisted on only claiming the actual cost). It is all too easy for our MEPs, like all the others, to become beguiled by their new chums. I think that by and large they are coping pretty well. __________________ IF THE EU WAS THE ANSWER, IT MUST HAVE BEEN A STUPID QUESTION!

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23-08-2006, 02:33 PM	#2 (permalink)
Niall Warry Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 603	Surely the 32 of you that have viewed this must have an opinion? :shock:

23-08-2006, 02:42 PM	#3 (permalink)
John Page Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Welwyn Hatfield (Herts.) Posts: 1,878	Maybe we are stunned that you asked.

23-08-2006, 04:05 PM	#5 (permalink)
komerad Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Cardiff. S.Wales Posts: 530	Niall Question (a) Without a doubt - backslapping to keep their positions/allowences/salaries etc (b) IMO, some have - some have not.

24-08-2006, 12:56 PM	#6 (permalink)
Ted Bovis Member Join Date: May 2006 Location: Midlands Posts: 112	"Gone native"? Developing an understanding of, and engaging with, the EP does not mean they have "gone native". It means they are doing their jobs. Don't criticise what you don't understand.

25-08-2006, 09:56 AM	#8 (permalink)
Ted Bovis Member Join Date: May 2006 Location: Midlands Posts: 112	There are many ways in which the EU can be attacked, but repeating childish myths and semi-truths simply discredits us.