David Noakes complaint

Anthony Butcher · 26-08-2006, 12:21 AM

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Originally Posted by soundasapound

strange how the moderators on this site are anything but...moderate. Its plain to see that if anyone has an issue with DCB/DN/ and in paticular Nigel , then the moderators (Some more than others- C steam and Anthony Butcher) are criticising left, right and centre,and they are fair game to allow any accusations be levelled against them Yet anyone dare criticise Richard, its suddenly how dare anyone accuse Richard of anything. How one sided this forum has become.

I thought forums were for an expression of ideas, and views. Unfortunately you can only have a view welcomed if it supporting Richard. I understand you have a view Anthony Butcher, but whole-hearted bias??!!

You are confusing our roles as moderators and our personal opinions. We allow all sides of the debate to be presented, as long as it is within the forum rules. We also are free to present our own opinions. We never edit or delete any criticisms except in the case of libellous, offensive or racist content being posted.

If the majority of people here support Richard, then rather than criticising the moderators, I think that you would be better off looking at the reasons behind that level of support.

As for whether I am personally biased... of course I am. I have seen Richard, Nigel and DCB in action on the NEC and would pick Richard every time. I feel very strongly about this.

soundasapound · 26-08-2006, 06:07 AM

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Originally Posted by C_steam

Not true. either point of view can and is placed (lewkip, Mike McGough etc)

However, the line is drawn - as is usual - with things that are blatantly untrue or libellous, and where something is off topic.

If that is correct, why is the rumour mill over Ashford perpetuated constantly by Richard supporters,

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I thought forums were for an expression of ideas, and views.

correct. but not unfounded accusations or libel.

see above response

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So, we try to be fair and if not, there is a 'complaints' section or you can PM the mods. In the end though, as with all things, if you do not like what you are part of, you have the right to take your custom elsewhere.

as stated, the mods are hardly impartial. As for the "if you dont like what you are part of..." quote, the amount of in house ***** fighting that goes on, the same could be levied at everyone who posts on this forum, including the moderators...

Mikeuk · 26-08-2006, 08:46 AM

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Originally Posted by prober

Its brilliant that a leading UKIP member is running unofficial Tory & Lib dem web sites......... at least someone has not had his imaginative ideas crushed out of him. " Infiltration" has to be one of UKIP's key strategies.

Except that apart from Tony and a few people from here not many people seem to be posting on the 'Tory' forum.

There's even a poster called camoron - I'll bet he's not a Tory supporter.

The forum looks good, though. Why not relaunch under the name of a suitably Tory moderator - Reginald Tufton-Bufton or something of that sort?

SponPlague · 26-08-2006, 09:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Mikeuk

Why not relaunch under the name of a suitably Tory moderator - Reginald Tufton-Bufton or something of that sort?

Disgusted of Tunbridge Wells?

C_steam · 26-08-2006, 11:29 AM

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If that is correct, why is the rumour mill over Ashford perpetuated constantly by Richard supporters,

Actually, the 'rumour mill' regarding Ashford is NOT a rumour. DCB publicly stated that only 15% of income ever got to UKIP. However, where the remaining 85% went is a matter of conjecture which has never been answered except in vague terms as 'operating costs'.

If that is the case, then fine, but someone joining the NEC should be able to have an accurate view of the party accounts, including income from call centres, since they become responsible. Only a fool would think otherwise, surely? Or would you be happy to join the governing body of an organisation without having full understanding of the financial situation of that organisation?

And as for the 'Richard supporters' bit - questions were being asked about the ashford accounts long before the leadership contest.

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