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C_steam · 09-08-2006, 02:48 PM

|No suprise - he's good at that sort of thing. Pity the party seem not to have anyone else able or permitted or trained up to do a similar job.

Roger Gough · 09-08-2006, 04:32 PM

Good performance - but did I detect a little 'orange' about his complexion/tan. Nah - must be dreaming. He might have challenged Geoff Hoon's assertion that Bulgarians and Romanians would only be allowed mass entry 'if it can be seen to benefit the UK economy'. As I've mentioned elsewhere, social cohesion has never been mentioned by Hoon or New Lab in this context. They should at least be pressed on the point. Good to hear Nigel at least mentioning (should have pressed it more strongly) about criminal convictions, however serious, not being a bar to entry to the UK for EU Citzs. This is a serious problem. Why doesn't UKIP demand that criminal EU nationals, when convicted and sentenced to bird in UK, be transferred back to their country of origin to serve their sentence?

Robin · 09-08-2006, 08:14 PM

Why have we got 15000 Romanians in this country?Are they all asylum seekers from this land that`s due to be in the EU in four months?Or are they here illegally?

When Romania joins the EU and they are allowed to come here legally,what happens to the ones that entered the country illegally?Will they,like the illegal Poles,Lithuanians,Slovenians etc be given an unofficial amnesty?

Perhaps we should use these amnesties for our own advantage-we dont pay telly tax or car tax in case its scrapped in the future.

BASILDON BOY · 09-08-2006, 08:47 PM

I believe many are asylum seekers - mostly Gipsies fleeing prosecution - which begs the question - if 15,000 of your citizens are fleeing prosecution - why are we allowing the country to join the EU? And if the coubntry is stable why dont we send back the 15,000 already here?

Millennium3 · 10-08-2006, 05:54 AM

Apart from a source of cheap labour to employers based in the UK, is there any other reason why Blair would have agreed to unlimited immigration from the Eastern European countries which were the latest to join the EU?

Anthony Butcher · 10-08-2006, 08:26 AM

David Noakes wrote:

Quote:

As usual, Nigel has missed the point. The government is too guilty to give us figures, but accorrding to city firm Capital Economics 900,000 immigrants came here last year.

Nigel is making the usual mistake of asking the government to do something about it. He should, of all people, know it can't. All control over our immigation was handed to the EU in the 1997 Amsterdam Treaty, and since then the EU has let in up to 4.5 million people. Stand on any London street corner and you can hear them.

It is part of the EU's deliberate campaign to remove our identity as a nation so we can be easily assimilated into the EU dictatorship.

Nigel cannot learn. He's still saying the EU costs us 40 billion a year, when the Better Regulation Commission Annual Report, with a forward by, a picture of, and signed by, Tony Blair, says the annual cost of implementing EU regulations alone is now 100 billion a year, or nearly 10% of our economy.

Even the Labour Party thinks the cost of the EU is 100bn more than the leadership of UKIP.

Nigel is so far behind where the EU is now there is no hope of him catching up with the position on the ground.

Asking the EU to veto the accession of Bulgaria and Romania won't do it. Repealing the 1997 Amsterdam Treaty would.

David Noakes.
UKIP Leadership Contendent

Robin · 10-08-2006, 07:52 PM

Which brings me back to what I`ve asked before.

Why are`nt all those(UKIP) who are likely to be in the media spotlight made to attend a conference centre where they are rigoursly put through a mock interview?
If it was compulsory even those with big egos would be reigned in.

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09-08-2006, 02:48 PM	#31 (permalink)
C_steam Super Moderator Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Anwhere far away from the cabalistas Posts: 7,283	\|No suprise - he's good at that sort of thing. Pity the party seem not to have anyone else able or permitted or trained up to do a similar job.

09-08-2006, 04:32 PM	#32 (permalink)
Roger Gough Senior Member Join Date: May 2005 Location: Hotel California Posts: 698	Good performance - but did I detect a little 'orange' about his complexion/tan. Nah - must be dreaming. He might have challenged Geoff Hoon's assertion that Bulgarians and Romanians would only be allowed mass entry 'if it can be seen to benefit the UK economy'. As I've mentioned elsewhere, social cohesion has never been mentioned by Hoon or New Lab in this context. They should at least be pressed on the point. Good to hear Nigel at least mentioning (should have pressed it more strongly) about criminal convictions, however serious, not being a bar to entry to the UK for EU Citzs. This is a serious problem. Why doesn't UKIP demand that criminal EU nationals, when convicted and sentenced to bird in UK, be transferred back to their country of origin to serve their sentence?

09-08-2006, 08:14 PM	#33 (permalink)
Robin Senior Member Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 759	Why have we got 15000 Romanians in this country?Are they all asylum seekers from this land that`s due to be in the EU in four months?Or are they here illegally? When Romania joins the EU and they are allowed to come here legally,what happens to the ones that entered the country illegally?Will they,like the illegal Poles,Lithuanians,Slovenians etc be given an unofficial amnesty? Perhaps we should use these amnesties for our own advantage-we dont pay telly tax or car tax in case its scrapped in the future.

09-08-2006, 08:47 PM	#34 (permalink)
BASILDON BOY Senior Member Join Date: May 2005 Location: N'Djamena, Chad Posts: 1,686	I believe many are asylum seekers - mostly Gipsies fleeing prosecution - which begs the question - if 15,000 of your citizens are fleeing prosecution - why are we allowing the country to join the EU? And if the coubntry is stable why dont we send back the 15,000 already here?

10-08-2006, 05:54 AM	#35 (permalink)
Millennium3 Moderator Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Berkshire Posts: 3,756	Apart from a source of cheap labour to employers based in the UK, is there any other reason why Blair would have agreed to unlimited immigration from the Eastern European countries which were the latest to join the EU?

10-08-2006, 07:52 PM	#37 (permalink)
Robin Senior Member Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 759	Which brings me back to what I`ve asked before. Why are`nt all those(UKIP) who are likely to be in the media spotlight made to attend a conference centre where they are rigoursly put through a mock interview? If it was compulsory even those with big egos would be reigned in.