To spam or not to spam?

SponPlague · 09-08-2006, 07:02 AM

On 9 Aug 2006, at 01:05, T-Robert McWhirter wrote:Geoffrey: Thanks for this, BUT:

I do not hob-nob with David socially, and we do not exchange Christmas cards.

Any contact with him has been restricted to UKIP business, and he has been, in the past, entitled to my email as a party official.

Where I have corresponded with him, by phone or email, in the past, it has equally been on party business (e.g. offering £3K for address --> postcode s/w)

Mailshotting me with a "Vote Nigel" spiel is definitely NOT party business.

My complaint stands, I'm afraid...

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sponplague & David Noakes

Geoffrey, may I please ask you to take action on this.

The existing leadership group, which includes Nigel Farage, David Cambell Bannerman and David Lott have abused and are still abusing their offices within the party to ensure they get a more than equal hearing for the existing leadership in this election.

This is just the latest in a series of abuses of their positions.

I agree with every point Robert McWhirter makes below. We who are not yet in the leadership cannot use membership lists, but it appears exisitng leaders can do so with impunity.

David Noakes.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rob McWhirter

(CC all candidates)

Dear Geoffrey,

I have this evening, Monday, 7th August, received a mailshot from
David Lott urging me to vote Nigel. I am concerned on three fronts:

1. This contravenes the principle that pulling material, i.e.
choosing to visit a candidacy website, is acceptable, but pushing,
i.e spam, is not.

2. As David has a long history of employment by the party, some of
the email addresses used may have been derived by virtue of his
position, and he may, therefore, have broken the Data Protection act.

3. As David Noakes clearly doesn't have access to the extensive
address-book contacts of the other candidates' supporters, this
disadvantages him above the others.

Would it be possible for you to obtain David's mail list, and make it
available on a one-off basis to a nominated supporter of each of the
other candidates?

Yours Sincerely.

R.A. McWhirter

michael mcgough · 09-08-2006, 08:11 AM

I've not received any spam;who should I complain to?

chikrodah · 09-08-2006, 08:27 AM

Just to level the playing field, I received a letter dated 4 August from Stephen Povey, Chairman of West Midlands Regional Committee, urging me to vote and stating that in his opinion, and that of the entire committee, Richard Suchozewski (sp?) was the best candidate. He managed to get Richard's name into the letter 4 times! :roll:

I'm disappointed that, in my role as election agent, I haven't received an email or letter from David Lott, despite my being in contact with him during GE2005. However, my candidate got one, so that's OK. 8)

Colin McNamee · 09-08-2006, 07:26 PM

If Ted Bovis info is correct

Quote:

Posted: Wed Aug 09, 2006 7:18 pm Post subject:
You are wrong. Lott is still on the payroll, his contract runs until the end of August.

He is still definitely on the staff.

then there surely has to be a case to answer ?

I cannot recall ever receiving an e-mail from David Lott prior to the two e-mails both dated 7 August timed 22.04 and 23.14 promoting Nigel for Leadership.

C_steam · 09-08-2006, 07:31 PM

Thank you Colin. This clearly needs explaining.

Colin McNamee · 09-08-2006, 07:38 PM

Have now queried with the Acting Returning Officer.

Ted Bovis · 09-08-2006, 08:32 PM

[quote="Colin McNamee"]If Ted Bovis info is correct

Yes it is.

Peacehammer · 10-08-2006, 10:01 PM

I too have recieved an email of this nature touting mister-f. It stinks. I sent back an email stating that a local event had been cancelled because it had Richard as a speaker, since the other candidates weren't invited, it has been deemed illegal.

Now I get spam (With in itself is illegal in a way) from a candidate which I don't support, and who has a history of borderline legal dirty tricks in iternal elections.

What can I do about this?

SponPlague · 10-08-2006, 11:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Peacehammer

I too have recieved an email of this nature touting mister-f. It stinks. I sent back an email stating that a local event had been cancelled because it had Richard as a speaker, since the other candidates weren't invited, it has been deemed illegal.

Now I get spam (With in itself is illegal in a way) from a candidate which I don't support, and who has a history of borderline legal dirty tricks in iternal elections.

What can I do about this?

Mail a complaint to gensec@ukip.org

10-08-2006, 10:01 PM	#18 (permalink)
Peacehammer Junior Member Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Tiverton (Devon) Posts: 30	I too have recieved an email of this nature touting mister-f. It stinks. I sent back an email stating that a local event had been cancelled because it had Richard as a speaker, since the other candidates weren't invited, it has been deemed illegal. Now I get spam (With in itself is illegal in a way) from a candidate which I don't support, and who has a history of borderline legal dirty tricks in iternal elections. What can I do about this? __________________ When you steal information from one person its called plaigarism, when you steal from many it is called research.

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09-08-2006, 08:11 AM	#12 (permalink)
michael mcgough Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Essex Posts: 592	I've not received any spam;who should I complain to?

09-08-2006, 08:27 AM	#13 (permalink)
chikrodah Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Midlands Posts: 1,124	Just to level the playing field, I received a letter dated 4 August from Stephen Povey, Chairman of West Midlands Regional Committee, urging me to vote and stating that in his opinion, and that of the entire committee, Richard Suchozewski (sp?) was the best candidate. He managed to get Richard's name into the letter 4 times! :roll: I'm disappointed that, in my role as election agent, I haven't received an email or letter from David Lott, despite my being in contact with him during GE2005. However, my candidate got one, so that's OK. 8)

09-08-2006, 07:31 PM	#15 (permalink)
C_steam Super Moderator Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Anwhere far away from the cabalistas Posts: 7,168	Thank you Colin. This clearly needs explaining.

09-08-2006, 07:38 PM	#16 (permalink)
Colin McNamee Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Somerset Posts: 894	Have now queried with the Acting Returning Officer.

09-08-2006, 08:32 PM	#17 (permalink)
Ted Bovis Member Join Date: May 2006 Location: Midlands Posts: 112	[quote="Colin McNamee"]If Ted Bovis info is correct Yes it is.