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http://www.richard4leader.co.uk/bann...g-mistake.html
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Well done!
I completely agree. UKIP needs to first establish a philosophy/ideology and then construct consistent policies around this frame. We must be consistent, we must get our facts straight, and we must be realistic. Thanks for pointing out the flaws in DCB's manifesto. I did not pick up on them straight away when i first read his site. Whay spend an extra £10bn on defence? Spend on what and why? Spending is a means to an end, not an end in itself. It is all very well saying we will spend more, but before saying this we must know what we would spend it on. (more equipment, people, research etc????) UKIP needs a proper debate. We need to set a course. Those that disagree need to leave. We cannot continue to try and please all of the people all of the time. We need to shake the tree and see who falls out and who stays. And we need to do all this in time for the next elections!!! |
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Join Date: Jul 2006
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I agree that we desperately need to open the party to debate and the most effective way of doing this is elect Richard as the new party leader.
I believe that the UKIP party needs to be dedicated to delivering and maintaining for the British people Personal Liberty and Responsibility. A key component of this is that we should seek to reform the Government and the State Sector so that we minimise its role in society. Mr Campbell Bannerman is, as with many long serving politicians, having difficulty reconciling this with a politician natural desire to control and manage society. Thanks to Mr Blair and his Governments, peoples trust in Politicians and the State appears to have dissolved and as a result a real opportunity must exist for a political party that can promote a deliverable plan to role back the state from whole areas of peoples lives. However Mr Cameron has decided to firmly move the Conservative party into the “Big Government” camp, if we as a party succeed in moving UK political opinion to “Small Government”, we may find ourselves fighting with a Brown led Labour party out flanking a dieing Conservative party which has alienated its core supporters in many constituencies. |
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I have nothing against conferences but the proposal raises so many supplementary questions. Who would attend the conference? Would each attendee have an equal vote? Would there be a grand vote at the end of the conference to choose between several competing ideological approaches? If not, would it be a question of the most articulate attendees (or those with the loudest voices) pressing for the insertion of their particular concerns into a single document which the attendees were invited to ratify as a whole at the end of the conference? Clearer and better and fairer, surely, for every candidate including Richard to outline their political philosophy now, so the UKIP electors can choose? |
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To be fair, I think that Richard has done this to some extent. What he hasn't done is provide a concrete 'this is who we are' document. I agree with Richard that there has to be some input from the members on this. His theme is very much about involving the party in its own future, rather than a top down dictatorial approach.
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Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: Welwyn Hatfield (Herts.)
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There's more discussion of his policies here, though you may already have seen it. |
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