Nigels site decides Domestic policy is important afterall.

mkpdavies · 22-07-2006, 03:15 PM

http://www.votenigel.org/13_domestic.shtml

Over the last few days this has appeared on Nigels site. You'll notice the typeface is a brighter colour, but I find it interesting that this has been added, almost as if it is an afterthought.

I agree with a lot of what it says, except it's conclusion. Sorry Nigel, but you fumbled the ball by only adding this as an afterthought. It is clear that you still can't refocus on issues other than the EU.

You are excellent getting stuck in at the clown parliament and this is what you should stay focused on. If you really believe in what you have written in this new section, I believe you should stand down and allow Richarski to take over the leadership role. He has already stated you will be welcome to continue what you are good at. Indeed, you will be able to conentrate on that side of things more than ever.

Bluemerle · 22-07-2006, 05:01 PM

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You are excellent getting stuck in at the clown parliament and this is what you should stay focused on. If you really believe in what you have written in this new section, I believe you should stand down and allow Richarski to take over the leadership role. He has already stated you will be welcome to continue what you are good at. Indeed, you will be able to conentrate on that side of things more than ever

Agreed, it would be a big mistake for Nigel to take over as Leader. He is not good at delegating, his interest obviously lies in Brussels and he is good at talking to the media about what is happening over there. He has already said that if he is elected Leader, he will appoint someone else to do the work here. In other words, NO CHANGE.

A vote for Nigel means a vote for an unknown spokesperson in the UK. There is no guarantee that you will get DCB, and John Moran has been mentioned as NFs running mate! :shock:

Anthony Butcher · 22-07-2006, 06:09 PM

This adds some more evidence that the Farage camp is panicking. Why add a domestic agenda after the launch? Because Richard is getting so much support from the activists at the meetings he is attending.

Nigel could very well lose this leadership election.

michael mcgough · 22-07-2006, 06:37 PM

Today's hustings gave no clue as to the potential winner and with Farage not in attendance one could only rate the three attendees .IMO they are
1)DCB 2)Richardski 3)d Noakes on content ,with Richardski coming top on animation/gesticulation.
Whilst I knew that DCB was a fairly recent convert from Tory never never land I hadn't realised that Richardski was such a new boyo on the block.I am amazed that he was still a Tory supporter at the time of our success in the 2004 Euro elections.I wonder why he is such a late convert to the cause we all espouse?

Bluemerle · 22-07-2006, 06:43 PM

He left the Tory Party because they wouldn't talk about the EU.

Look at his website. http://www.richard4leader.co.uk/

Anthony Butcher · 22-07-2006, 07:19 PM

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Originally Posted by michael mcgough

.I am amazed that he was still a Tory supporter at the time of our success in the 2004 Euro elections.I wonder why he is such a late convert to the cause we all espouse?

Late convert? UKIP was virtually unheard of before the 2004 elections, and is still regarded as a fringe group by many anti-EU people. I don't think that it is reasonable to judge people by when they joined the party.

I also joined just after the 2004 elections - it was the first time that I even considered looking at UKIP.

The only thing that matters is what the candidates offer in the future.

michael mcgough · 22-07-2006, 08:44 PM

"UKIP was virtually unheard of before the 2004 elections"

With three MEPs prior to 2004 how can you possibly say it was virtually unheard of?Maybe in the Mendips or the Valleys but certainly not elsewhere.

I am not judging people by when they joined the party but we have had little time to judge Richardski----I have seen him only twice,and only in this past week.DCB has been treading the boards for months and I have now seen him many times.Unlike a very few of the NEC they both impressed me with their social skills at last weeks post NEC drinks event.

John Page · 23-07-2006, 12:38 AM

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1)DCB 2)Richardski 3)d Noakes on content

Some of DCB's policies look pretty odd - there's a selction here.

Richard's point is that his policymaking won't be done top down - and therefore he doesn't want to dictate what all the policies should be.

Britannist · 23-07-2006, 02:14 AM

I wonder which of the four candidates is getting the most website hits.

It may not matter much because I suspect the overwhelming majority of members who vote (in the UKIP leadership contest) haven't looked at the websites of the candidates and don't intend to (or don't have access).

Anthony Butcher · 23-07-2006, 02:34 AM

I don't imagine DCB is getting any - his website has been down for the last 24 hours.

22-07-2006, 03:15 PM	#1 (permalink)
mkpdavies Uber Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Woking Posts: 31,037 Party: Libertarian Party	Nigels site decides Domestic policy is important afterall. http://www.votenigel.org/13_domestic.shtml Over the last few days this has appeared on Nigels site. You'll notice the typeface is a brighter colour, but I find it interesting that this has been added, almost as if it is an afterthought. I agree with a lot of what it says, except it's conclusion. Sorry Nigel, but you fumbled the ball by only adding this as an afterthought. It is clear that you still can't refocus on issues other than the EU. You are excellent getting stuck in at the clown parliament and this is what you should stay focused on. If you really believe in what you have written in this new section, I believe you should stand down and allow Richarski to take over the leadership role. He has already stated you will be welcome to continue what you are good at. Indeed, you will be able to conentrate on that side of things more than ever. __________________ http://brits4ronpaul.blogspot.com/ http://wokinglibertarians.blogspot.com/ http://lpuk.org My ignore list Labour, Blue Labour, Lib Dems

23-07-2006, 02:14 AM	#9 (permalink)
Britannist Uber Member Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: London Posts: 22,896	Candidates' website ranking I wonder which of the four candidates is getting the most website hits. It may not matter much because I suspect the overwhelming majority of members who vote (in the UKIP leadership contest) haven't looked at the websites of the candidates and don't intend to (or don't have access).

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22-07-2006, 06:09 PM	#3 (permalink)
Anthony Butcher Administrator Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Long Ashton, Bristol Posts: 10,185 Party: None	This adds some more evidence that the Farage camp is panicking. Why add a domestic agenda after the launch? Because Richard is getting so much support from the activists at the meetings he is attending. Nigel could very well lose this leadership election.

22-07-2006, 06:37 PM	#4 (permalink)
michael mcgough Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Essex Posts: 944	Today's hustings gave no clue as to the potential winner and with Farage not in attendance one could only rate the three attendees .IMO they are 1)DCB 2)Richardski 3)d Noakes on content ,with Richardski coming top on animation/gesticulation. Whilst I knew that DCB was a fairly recent convert from Tory never never land I hadn't realised that Richardski was such a new boyo on the block.I am amazed that he was still a Tory supporter at the time of our success in the 2004 Euro elections.I wonder why he is such a late convert to the cause we all espouse?

22-07-2006, 06:43 PM	#5 (permalink)
Bluemerle Uber Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Dorset. Posts: 3,252	He left the Tory Party because they wouldn't talk about the EU. Look at his website. http://www.richard4leader.co.uk/

22-07-2006, 08:44 PM	#7 (permalink)
michael mcgough Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Essex Posts: 944	"UKIP was virtually unheard of before the 2004 elections" With three MEPs prior to 2004 how can you possibly say it was virtually unheard of?Maybe in the Mendips or the Valleys but certainly not elsewhere. I am not judging people by when they joined the party but we have had little time to judge Richardski----I have seen him only twice,and only in this past week.DCB has been treading the boards for months and I have now seen him many times.Unlike a very few of the NEC they both impressed me with their social skills at last weeks post NEC drinks event.

23-07-2006, 02:34 AM	#10 (permalink)
Anthony Butcher Administrator Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Long Ashton, Bristol Posts: 10,185 Party: None	I don't imagine DCB is getting any - his website has been down for the last 24 hours.