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Old 23-07-2006, 06:15 PM   #21 (permalink)
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"if it has been accurately reported to GLW and by GLW"
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Old 23-07-2006, 07:15 PM   #22 (permalink)
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"if it has been accurately reported to GLW and by GLW"
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If the scenario has been accurately reported to GLW by one of his information gatherers, and then accurately re-reported by GLW to a third party. I think :wink:
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Old 24-07-2006, 10:38 AM   #23 (permalink)
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Are the Metric Martrys Fund on record as having received this money ?
I seem to recall that UKIP had a Metric Martrys Fund to which we all contributed ,don`t recall anything re the MEPs giving a donation now that I think about it.
Are you sure it was a donation to them and not to someone /thing else ?
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Old 24-07-2006, 12:54 PM   #24 (permalink)
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I seem to recall that UKIP had a Metric Martrys Fund to which we all contributed
Yes, it was this fund. It was widely reported at the time, I believe.

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Old 24-07-2006, 04:20 PM   #25 (permalink)
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Thanks Mark.

I have looked at the old newspaper reports now and it would appear that because the (UKIP?) accounts openly showed such a (trust?) fund holding and donating £11500 to the Metric Martrys Fund the whole business ,not surprisingly came to the notice of the EU .

Indeed the fact that this money had allegedly been donated from their excess expenses was held up by them as proof of our MEPs good faith as far as not getting involed in the EU Gravy Train .

The question I pose is this did NF and JT deliberately go ahead with this clear and unequivical and very public donation of excess expenses knowing that the EU would have to take the action that it did or were they genuinely taken surprise by its response .

Further I am confused as to why the matter should ever show up in our acounts or was it just noted in our accounts that such a (private payment ) was made as it is my information that no such separate trust account for the alleviation of distressfor those affected by the EU was ever set up by the MEPs.

This is an important topic simply because it is put forward as a reason for
MEPs not openly using their excessive expense money for the Eurosceptic cause.
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Old 24-07-2006, 08:41 PM   #26 (permalink)
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The question I pose is this did NF and JT deliberately go ahead with this clear and unequivical and very public donation of excess expenses knowing that the EU would have to take the action that it did or were they genuinely taken surprise by its response .
No, they didn't know, as far as I am aware. I suggest you ask them.

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Further I am confused as to why the matter should ever show up in our acounts or was it just noted in our accounts that such a (private payment ) was made as it is my information that no such separate trust account for the alleviation of distressfor those affected by the EU was ever set up by the MEPs.
Without checking back, it is my recollection that the intention was to set up a fund using the excess expenses. However, this was expressly ruled out by the European Parliament.

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This is an important topic simply because it is put forward as a reason for
MEPs not openly using their excessive expense money for the Eurosceptic cause.
I seem to recall you had quite a lot to say to all sorts of people on the subject of expenses. I'm not sure what you expect me to say to this. You are of course aware of the considerable financial contribution made by the MEPs. I am not certain that this is the appropriate place to discuss this matter further.

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Old 24-07-2006, 09:50 PM   #27 (permalink)
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It was a good idea - ruined by EU rules - end of subject.
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Old 25-07-2006, 12:00 PM   #28 (permalink)
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It was a good idea but it is not the end of the story .

I have spoken to Neil Herron today .The Metric Martrys Fund NEVER received such an amount of money from the MEPs in question .The fund keeps meticulous records I am told and is a properly set up trust fund which is fully audited .Neil Herron is checking to see whether any money was received from the MEPs in question .
It did gratefully receive a £2,500 cheque from UKIP members in October 2000.
Further to that it was the Metric Martrys Fund which paid all the lawyers fees in the case,except for the original opinion which was in the public domain at an early stage .

This information casts serious doubt on what we have been told re this matter and begs the question as to what really happened to the excess expenses .Where did they go if not to the MM Fund or the legal expenses of the case ?
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It did gratefully receive a £2,500 cheque from UKIP members in October 2000.
They also received £400 from UKIP Guildford at a S/E rally around that time...
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I emailed all the MEPs for London (where I was living at the time) and asked them about excess travel expenses. The Green MEP quite openly admitted that she donated the excess to her party for literature etc.
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