Why I can't vote for DCB

C_steam · 20-07-2006, 10:00 PM

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He seems to want UKIP to remain amateurish and thinks loyalty to UKIP is the best criteria. Sorry, but the interests of the UK are first and we need high-calibre people instead of risking future obscurity by well-meaing loyalists.

is one view. I happen to think otherwise. But that is what this is about.

Shame about the double ticket though Christina, I could understand the attraction of Nigel in Brussels and DCB in the UK, but now that that is blown at least we now have four independant and non-allied candidates to choose from. Unless of course DCB wins and is particularly forgiving!

mkpdavies · 20-07-2006, 10:01 PM

Would DCB (or his mentor Nigel for that Matter), work happily with either of the other two candidates?

I know the answer from the fact he singles out Nigel in his blurb.

You can tell a lot if you read between the lines. (Or have more than a couple of days membership under your belt).

Christina · 20-07-2006, 10:03 PM

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Originally Posted by C_steam

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He seems to want UKIP to remain amateurish and thinks loyalty to UKIP is the best criteria. Sorry, but the interests of the UK are first and we need high-calibre people instead of risking future obscurity by well-meaing loyalists.

is one view. I happen to think otherwise. But that is what this is about.

Shame about the double ticket though Christina, I could understand the attraction of Nigel in Brussels and DCB in the UK, but now that that is blown at least we now have four independant and non-allied candidates to choose from. Unless of course DCB wins and is particularly forgiving!

I'm not bothered about whether Nigel or someone else leads in Brussells, but why has it been blown? It makes sense to have Nigel in his current role there.

progcon.org · 20-07-2006, 10:03 PM

DCB didn't 'single out' Nigel. I asked him a direct question about Nigel, and that was his response.

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Would DCB (or his mentor Nigel for that Matter), work happily with either of the other two candidates?

I know I wouldn't. They're nutters and their supporters are fibbers! :wink:

mkpdavies · 20-07-2006, 10:06 PM

That's a no then.

John Page · 20-07-2006, 10:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Ted Bovis

I will be voting for DCB, however, who is a political animal.

Could you explain what you mean by "political animal" in this context?

John Page · 20-07-2006, 10:30 PM

progcon, this is a thread about DCB - there are plenty of other threads where you can regurgitate your old points about Richard if you must keep doing it.

John Page · 20-07-2006, 10:40 PM

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Originally Posted by progcon.org

Mr Grumpy wrote:

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Easy bedfellows? I don't think so.

How does that fit with this quote from DCB today:
"I would be happy to work with Nigel, in either capacity "

Answer, um, it doesn't! In fact that is exactly the conclusion that many of us came to, that the failure in Bromley was squarely down to UKIP and its narrow message, because it had every other box firmly ticked in Bromley so there was no excuse. UKIP needs to change. We all know that.

Actually "Mr Grumpy" finds you slightly amusing in small doses.

So you really think the puppet master would be happy to work under someone who had publicly rubbished his strategy?

UKIP in its present state is the puppet master's product. He knows that, and he knows DCB knows it.

We all know that UKIP needs to change? Well, we don't want to discuss other leadership candidates in this thread, do we.

Let's come back to this when we talk about DCB's vision for UKIP.

mkpdavies · 20-07-2006, 10:47 PM

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So you really think the puppet master would be happy to work under someone who had publicly rubbished his strategy?

I think they are working in tandem mate. DCB has one purpose and one purpose only in my mind and that's to protect the quaterback.

Nigel hoovers up the rabid anti-EU pressure gorup votes and DCB damages the only competition.

They haven't clung to power for so long, without being sly about it. My only question is how they want it to swing. A Nigel win, with DCB just doing enough to stop Richard ORRRR Nigel bails or doesn't even try and tells his supporters to back DCB.

Or they may just be confident they can win it on Nigels vote alone.

They suckered a few gullable types already and that's the ones who are supposedly "informed". Kudos to them for that, I wish they would use such strategy on the Troika.

Christina · 20-07-2006, 10:51 PM

Yeah DCB has been in 'power' for 7 months and is being written about by delusional Ski supporters as if he;s been in a cabal for donkey's years.

The only thing I have had against Ski is allowing a misleading argument on his site. I think he lacks vision too, but that is just opinion backed up with his refusal to answer Chad's questions. I think he may not wish to publicise his thoughts on UKIP Home, and that would be fine, if he just said so. I'd like to read his answers.

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mkpdavies Uber Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Woking Posts: 32,078 Party: Libertarian Party	Would DCB (or his mentor Nigel for that Matter), work happily with either of the other two candidates? I know the answer from the fact he singles out Nigel in his blurb. You can tell a lot if you read between the lines. (Or have more than a couple of days membership under your belt). __________________ http://brits4ronpaul.blogspot.com/ http://wokinglibertarians.blogspot.com/ http://lpuk.org My ignore list Labour, Lib Dems

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20-07-2006, 10:30 PM	#37 (permalink)
John Page Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Welwyn Hatfield (Herts.) Posts: 1,878	progcon, this is a thread about DCB - there are plenty of other threads where you can regurgitate your old points about Richard if you must keep doing it.

20-07-2006, 10:51 PM	#40 (permalink)
Christina Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Eccleston, St Helens Posts: 1,529	Yeah DCB has been in 'power' for 7 months and is being written about by delusional Ski supporters as if he;s been in a cabal for donkey's years. The only thing I have had against Ski is allowing a misleading argument on his site. I think he lacks vision too, but that is just opinion backed up with his refusal to answer Chad's questions. I think he may not wish to publicise his thoughts on UKIP Home, and that would be fine, if he just said so. I'd like to read his answers.