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Old 16-07-2006, 01:17 PM   #11 (permalink)
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What Richard gives on his site does not begin to help me understand what direction he would take on energy supply, the environment, etc etc. I can't possibly vote for someone unless I have a decent broad understanding of their approach to the key issues.
Huh? UKIP is a barely functioning party yet you are worrying about our energy policy? This is so far down the list of priorities at the moment that it just isn't worth discussing.

None of these candidates can or should have an energy supply policy because the party has NEVER done any research on it. To do so would be irresponsible.

Interestingly, when you were supporting Nigel, the only thing that mattered was 'media, media, media'. Now it's 'policies, policies, policies'. I think that you are looking in the wrong direction. Before any of that (media or policies) can work, the party must function properly.

Nigel doesn't have a plan for this, and DCB can be judged on his track record since he is currently in charge of it. I have put forward a fair number of proposals to be put before the NEC to improve the internal systems. I think that just three of them made it to NEC agenda. Who controls the agenda? DCB.
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Old 16-07-2006, 01:19 PM   #12 (permalink)
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This is a joke, surely?

UKIP can't grow into a rounded party unless it has the right principles and policies that appeals to the public.

Are you seriously trying to tell me that Richard has no idea how to address any of the key issues?

I clearly noted that I would prefer a high quality candidate to Nigel to a lower quality candidate with a vague 'change' agenda. I haven't changed my mind on that, but DCB's with his professional agenda focussing on all the policy areas you would expect a leader to, has impressed me and thus I switched my current preference.

I keep trying to get the same info out of the Richard supporters and it is becoming ever clearer that there is no framework for change at all. But I am really trying hard for you to prove me wrong.

Please tell me that Richard has currently more plans than internal admin changes. We need to know where he stands on the key policy areas.
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Old 16-07-2006, 01:23 PM   #13 (permalink)
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I would not bother to try and find out what Richard stands for. Now can we cut out the bad tempers, and talk about what is really important, the candidate's approach to principle and policy.
My replies aren't ill-tempered at all.

I accept that candidates' principle and policy are important to you. We agree that Nigel Farage has said less about his principles and policy than any other candidate.

So I can only think of two logical responses to him from your standpoint.

1. Write him off because he's had so little to say.

2. Ask him more detailed questions - including why he doesn't think these issues are important enough even to get a mention. (Maybe you've done that - it would be easy to miss it, so apologies if I have.)
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UKIPs growth policy appears to be to slag off Camoron in the hope to shake loose a few tory members to join UKIP!

By positioning ourselves to the right and spend most of our time slagging off the tories gave us our excellant result in Bromley!
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John,

Let's try this slowly.

What are Richard's preferences to solving the energy supply issue?


You keep telling me you are voting Richard because UKIP needs to be full party not a single issue, so all I am seeking to do is find out Richard's preferences to those other issues! But so far, all I know is that Richard want to pull out of the EU and will reorgansise internal admin stuff (all important in itself but minor compared to policy direction).
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all important in itself but minor compared to policy direction
That is your opinion, but you have only just joined the party. You haven't yet witnessed all of UKIP's problems in action. You really don't seem to grasp the enormity of the task ahead to make UKIP credible. You are approaching this leadership election as if it was for a normal party like the Tories, but UKIP needs something very different at this point.

Policy is meaningless at this point. We aren't going to get into government at the next election so we don't need detailed policies. Policy is the least important issue in this election.
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UKIP wants to cover this green and pleasant land with nuclear power plants!

UKIP policy should be compulsory energy efficiency and solar power/wind turbines on all new build homes (with tax breaks for developers)

There should also be more grants for more home efficiency and for installing solar panels and wind turbines to help reduce people energy relience on the power companies! These measures will save £thousands from the average gas/electricity bill - with surplus power sold back to the national grid!

When you consider the massive subsidies given to the nuclear sector and the massive amounts that need to be spent for thousands of years storing the toxic radioactive waste - it makes sense!
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UKIPs growth policy appears to be to slag off Camoron in the hope to shake loose a few tory members to join UKIP!

By positioning ourselves to the right and spend most of our time slagging off the tories gave us our excellant result in Bromley!
I don't think that spending £75,000 in order to get 8% of the vote was particularly good. From what we were told, Nigel should have won.
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Oh my God! Will not one Richard supporter please talk about his policies and principles, not Nigel's failings, not conspiracies, not anything else.

I want to find out about Richard.

You say he wants to move away from one issue, so I am simply trying to ask his views on those other issues!
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Which part of "Ask Richard" don't you understand?

You have a habbit of throwing hissy fits when people don't play the game you want.

It is totaly ridiculous asking people to answer questions on Richards personal beliefs on specific policy issues.

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