Female, black Asian or ethnic minority UKIP MEPs

kernow · 15-07-2006, 01:18 PM

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Originally Posted by andypandy

This whole "equal ops" nonsense, is just that, nonsense. UKIP should stay well clear.

Agreed! Best for the job should be chosen regardless.

BASILDON BOY · 15-07-2006, 01:50 PM

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Originally Posted by eublues

What exactly will be the process by which MEP candidates are nominated and then selected across the different regions? Does anyone know?

Doesn't the 'Leader' put his pals to the top of the list? Its who you know not what you know!

David Holland · 15-07-2006, 03:18 PM

The problem is that there are not that many women activists in any party. Until there are more it will be difficult to find women candidates.

brian lee · 15-07-2006, 04:52 PM

Before talking about representation from women or ethnic minorities you need to have a significant number of them who are activists.

At the last General Election in South Essex 3 of the 7 candidates were women. There were no quotas or anything silly, it was just that they offered and the Party willingly accepted them.

In some situations, and I suspect the Tory party is one of them, there are a large number of active women. If a selection process is necessary, women tend to prefer men candidates for the simple reason they would rather be dominated by a man than another woman.

UKIP doesn't have a problem yet.

On the question of selecting candidates for the EU, that is a matter that needs a complete re-appraisal. We can't have the same system as last time. Before selecting them the Party also has to decide what it expects of them. We can't have a repeat situation where the MEPs tell us what we are going to get. Now that is a real problem for UKIP that might be suitably aired at the hustings meetings.

prober · 16-07-2006, 10:47 PM

With his colour based racist sexist and ageist sterotyping statement maybe Basildon Boy would be more comfortable in other parties .... or does he know something we dont ....like Knapman is going to put one his Polish serfs up for the MEP list in the interests of "diversity".

Tom Wilde · 16-07-2006, 10:58 PM

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Originally Posted by mkpdavies

I wonder if Rusty Lee would be interested in applying?

The only qualification I am looking for in an MEP, is how do they come across as a person to the media. I think she would do quite well on that front.

I think she would be excellent. She seems to be pretty versatile and those who've met her say she's very switched on and an engaging personality.

kedlo · 22-07-2006, 08:11 PM

surely it is whether the person is capable of doing the job well, and not whether they fulfil certain racism and sexism criteria.

Ted Bovis · 01-08-2006, 09:49 PM

Kernow and Andy Pandy are right. Tokenism is patronising, and I like to feel that I am a member of a party that is above such things. Women and members of minorities of any sort are quite capable of getting there under their own steam, lets not insult them by even suggesting Lab/Con style 'lists'.

Colin McNamee · 01-08-2006, 10:22 PM

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Originally Posted by BASILDON BOY

Doesn't the 'Leader' put his pals to the top of the list? Its who you know not what you know!

Absolute rubbish as far as MEP's are concerned.

MEP's. The rules governing selection is based on a political party's members votes which determine the ranking.

MP's however in some parties could be Leader chosen, especially where the local constiuency party was weak. Even Cameron is having some difficulty in getting his ' A ' list to stick.

15-07-2006, 03:18 PM	#13 (permalink)
David Holland Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: London Posts: 1,319	The problem is that there are not that many women activists in any party. Until there are more it will be difficult to find women candidates. __________________ More people + no new homes = housing shortage.

22-07-2006, 08:11 PM	#17 (permalink)
kedlo Junior Member Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 68	the person, not there ethnicity surely it is whether the person is capable of doing the job well, and not whether they fulfil certain racism and sexism criteria.

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15-07-2006, 04:52 PM	#14 (permalink)
brian lee Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: South Essex Posts: 613	Before talking about representation from women or ethnic minorities you need to have a significant number of them who are activists. At the last General Election in South Essex 3 of the 7 candidates were women. There were no quotas or anything silly, it was just that they offered and the Party willingly accepted them. In some situations, and I suspect the Tory party is one of them, there are a large number of active women. If a selection process is necessary, women tend to prefer men candidates for the simple reason they would rather be dominated by a man than another woman. UKIP doesn't have a problem yet. On the question of selecting candidates for the EU, that is a matter that needs a complete re-appraisal. We can't have the same system as last time. Before selecting them the Party also has to decide what it expects of them. We can't have a repeat situation where the MEPs tell us what we are going to get. Now that is a real problem for UKIP that might be suitably aired at the hustings meetings.

16-07-2006, 10:47 PM	#15 (permalink)
prober Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 855	With his colour based racist sexist and ageist sterotyping statement maybe Basildon Boy would be more comfortable in other parties .... or does he know something we dont ....like Knapman is going to put one his Polish serfs up for the MEP list in the interests of "diversity".

01-08-2006, 09:49 PM	#18 (permalink)
Ted Bovis Member Join Date: May 2006 Location: Midlands Posts: 112	Kernow and Andy Pandy are right. Tokenism is patronising, and I like to feel that I am a member of a party that is above such things. Women and members of minorities of any sort are quite capable of getting there under their own steam, lets not insult them by even suggesting Lab/Con style 'lists'.