Some good releases on UKIP shocker

mkpdavies · 11-07-2006, 10:36 AM

http://www.ukip.org/ukip_news/gen12.php?t=1&id=2321

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David Cameron’s "empty" rhetoric on hoodies is designed to deflect attention from "the dearth of ideas within the Conservative Party over how to deal with youth crime or pretty much anything else", UKIP Leader Roger Knapman MEP said today (10.7.06).

Mr Knapman said: "As local Conservative administrations across the UK continue to sell off playing fields and youth clubs, Mr Cameron says we have to understand why kids in hoodies are on the streets.

“Perhaps if ‘Dave’ lived the type of life the rest of us do, away from the rarefied air of Notting Hill, the reasons would be as self-evident to him as they are to everyone else. He would be more likely to end up with a punch on the nose and a missing wallet than a photo-opportunity hug. It is a typical snake oil cure from an overly slick PR man with no experience of real life.

“Banal statements such as ‘it’s the parents' fault’ and cries for ‘more social justice’ fall a long way short of the statesmanlike qualities expected of someone who purports to be a future Prime Minster. What the nation deserves is a solution, not a nonsensical soundbite.

Mr Knapman said that UKIP had long had a policy platform designed to tackle the problems of youth crime, which centres on:

Re-establishing police houses on large estates; visible local policing.
Fostering a sense of civic pride and re-engaging local communities in the worst areas for crime.
Re-opening youth centres and facilities.
Making police forces more accountable to local authorities, to allow targeting of particular trouble spots.

This is more like it!

There are some other cut and paste jobs too, that are nice and relevant ot Britain and not just the EU.

Colin McNamee · 11-07-2006, 10:51 AM

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This is more like it!

Very much so, much more like it.

Hopefully it will see the light of day in the media !

Westcountryman · 11-07-2006, 11:24 AM

Finally, a policy on crime that I agree with.

John Page · 11-07-2006, 11:31 AM

Actually it strikes me as mainly UKIP as usual.

1. How much has UKIP spoken about these crime policies over the past few months - while crime figures have been a hot topic and proposals for police mergers have been very much in the news?

Not a lot.

Who is UKIP's spokesman on these issues? I don't know.

Could you have reeled these off as UKIP policies? I couldn't. I don't know how much this was used in bad areas of Bromley (you said they sent you to those, Matt!).

2. So - with crime having been constantly in the news - why now? It's because the Tories have said something. That's what draws Roger Knapman's attention.

Do you believe there's a UKIP strategy to get its policies on crime before the public and keep doing it?

Because I don't think this leadership begins to think in that way. Look at the tanks - a couple of gestures and then nothing.

UKIP needs a leadership which will take strategic views on these issues, not wait until the leader's old party say something.

mkpdavies · 11-07-2006, 11:54 AM

There are subtle improvements though.

Not mentioning the EU, when the EU shouldn't be mentioned.
Putting forward UKIP's policies after the attack.

True the Tories got a menetion, but as Cameron gave us an open goal, we had to take it.

Will it continue? I hope so!

Colin McNamee · 11-07-2006, 11:59 AM

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UKIP needs a leadership which will take strategic views on these issues.......

Ain't that the truth ! .........and communicate the policies and strategies to the activists.

There's novel boyo !

John Page · 11-07-2006, 12:19 PM

Is Mr Knapman more interested in crime or in the Tories?

Well ... how many times does he mention the government's policies on crime?

Er ... none.

QED

mkpdavies · 11-07-2006, 12:42 PM

That's a given. Not long now and we will see what the new leaders focus is.

Status quo candidates DCB/Farage.

New direction candidate Richardski.

Wildcard fruitcake candidate David Noakes.

BASILDON BOY · 11-07-2006, 01:38 PM

....while the Government are on their knees....

.....lets attack the tory opposition!

If only we had enough venom for the party of Government!

mkpdavies · 11-07-2006, 01:39 PM

I don't mind using Camerons comments as an opportunity, but it is true, where is the same treatment for Labour and the Lib Dems for that matter.

11-07-2006, 11:24 AM	#3 (permalink)
Westcountryman Uber Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: The Westcountry. Posts: 5,922 Party: None	Finally, a policy on crime that I agree with. __________________ Manus haec inimica tyrannis ense petit placidam sub libertate quietam - "This hand of mine, which is hostile to tyrants, seeks by the sword quiet peace under liberty."

11-07-2006, 11:54 AM	#5 (permalink)
mkpdavies Uber Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Woking Posts: 32,078 Party: Libertarian Party	There are subtle improvements though. Not mentioning the EU, when the EU shouldn't be mentioned. Putting forward UKIP's policies after the attack. True the Tories got a menetion, but as Cameron gave us an open goal, we had to take it. Will it continue? I hope so! __________________ http://brits4ronpaul.blogspot.com/ http://wokinglibertarians.blogspot.com/ http://lpuk.org My ignore list Labour, Lib Dems

11-07-2006, 12:42 PM	#8 (permalink)
mkpdavies Uber Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Woking Posts: 32,078 Party: Libertarian Party	That's a given. Not long now and we will see what the new leaders focus is. Status quo candidates DCB/Farage. New direction candidate Richardski. Wildcard fruitcake candidate David Noakes. __________________ http://brits4ronpaul.blogspot.com/ http://wokinglibertarians.blogspot.com/ http://lpuk.org My ignore list Labour, Lib Dems

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mkpdavies Uber Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Woking Posts: 32,078 Party: Libertarian Party	I don't mind using Camerons comments as an opportunity, but it is true, where is the same treatment for Labour and the Lib Dems for that matter. __________________ http://brits4ronpaul.blogspot.com/ http://wokinglibertarians.blogspot.com/ http://lpuk.org My ignore list Labour, Lib Dems

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11-07-2006, 11:31 AM	#4 (permalink)
John Page Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Welwyn Hatfield (Herts.) Posts: 1,878	Actually it strikes me as mainly UKIP as usual. 1. How much has UKIP spoken about these crime policies over the past few months - while crime figures have been a hot topic and proposals for police mergers have been very much in the news? Not a lot. Who is UKIP's spokesman on these issues? I don't know. Could you have reeled these off as UKIP policies? I couldn't. I don't know how much this was used in bad areas of Bromley (you said they sent you to those, Matt!). 2. So - with crime having been constantly in the news - why now? It's because the Tories have said something. That's what draws Roger Knapman's attention. Do you believe there's a UKIP strategy to get its policies on crime before the public and keep doing it? Because I don't think this leadership begins to think in that way. Look at the tanks - a couple of gestures and then nothing. UKIP needs a leadership which will take strategic views on these issues, not wait until the leader's old party say something.

11-07-2006, 12:19 PM	#7 (permalink)
John Page Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Welwyn Hatfield (Herts.) Posts: 1,878	Is Mr Knapman more interested in crime or in the Tories? Well ... how many times does he mention the government's policies on crime? Er ... none. QED

11-07-2006, 01:38 PM	#9 (permalink)
BASILDON BOY Uber Member Join Date: May 2005 Location: N'Djamena, Chad Posts: 2,061	....while the Government are on their knees.... .....lets attack the tory opposition! If only we had enough venom for the party of Government!