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Old 07-07-2006, 02:37 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Hey guys,

Right, i'm not sure if this is the right place to post this or not but hey...
I went to a local UKIP meeting last night where I was talkin to Richard Suchorzewski (UKIP Wales)... anyway, we were talking about issues which I have and the whole young v old problems... because me and my two friends were the only people under 40 in the room, and no-one was willing to listen to us, because of our age.

Richard said that there was a youth group set up before that never actually went anywhere, and suggested that I see if anyone would be willing to join, or get involved with it....
So I was thinking from 16-24, into the younger side of UKIP or politics in general... gaining interest with younger people and raising awareness with younger people... and getting them into UKIP.

Anyway, if you're interested please let me know - you can email me at mark@gblive.net (and msn at the same address)... or just message me on the forum.

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Hi there.

Yep there have been a couple of attempts to try and get a youth movement going, but they seem to have fizzled out.

One of the problems is lack of young people interested. I started 2 years ago when i was 18. Now 20 i am still the youngest by far at local meetings. Most of the members are coffin dodgers.

I'd be interested in helping with a youth wing if others were willing to come and help also. My problems are time constraints as i have my own telecoms business and we are going through a very very busy few months.

The other issues you would need to work through are objectives and resources. What will be the point of a youth wing? to 'spread the word' or to run in parallel to the main party with it's own events etc. Then what, if any, resources are avilable to achieve this.

I know there are a few students who have set up UKIP branches at university but unfortunately not enough.

If you were able to create a national organisation which university branches affialiated to, which was recognised by the main party, and had some influence, we might get somewhere.

As i say, i'm happy to help if i can. Any ideas you want to discuss? PM me or email me.
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Old 07-07-2006, 03:26 PM   #3 (permalink)
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What happened to Alex McKee's YouthKIP?
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Hi there.

Yep there have been a couple of attempts to try and get a youth movement going, but they seem to have fizzled out.

One of the problems is lack of young people interested. I started 2 years ago when i was 18. Now 20 i am still the youngest by far at local meetings. Most of the members are coffin dodgers.

I'd be interested in helping with a youth wing if others were willing to come and help also. My problems are time constraints as i have my own telecoms business and we are going through a very very busy few months.

The other issues you would need to work through are objectives and resources. What will be the point of a youth wing? to 'spread the word' or to run in parallel to the main party with it's own events etc. Then what, if any, resources are avilable to achieve this.

I know there are a few students who have set up UKIP branches at university but unfortunately not enough.

If you were able to create a national organisation which university branches affialiated to, which was recognised by the main party, and had some influence, we might get somewhere.

As i say, i'm happy to help if i can. Any ideas you want to discuss? PM me or email me.
Hey,

I've added you to Yahoo.

I think i'd say it would mainly be to spread the word, and generally get younger people into both politics and UKIP... inform/educate people about the EU, and why it's wrong for England, and for them...
One of my main problems with UKIP are that it's very political, lots of political talk, which doesn't go down well with people of our age.. even I get bored and i'm quite into it... obviously.

I think it's what UKIP lack - young suporters... most other partys have support from younger people, labour.. simply because it's what their parents do, they don't know politics and so they vote labour... Lib Dems because of the lowering voting age and easy-goingness on everything.. and so on... and UKIP are, or at least, seem very much for the older generation, and as you said, in these meetings most people are 'coffin dodgers' and the odd few in their 40s... which is pretty scary for anyone who may be interested in joining.

A young persons aproach to politics... it's what we need.
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Smashed into the ground by the leadership, in favour of their own "UKIP Youth" effort, that has since disapeared into nothing.
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Smashed into the ground by the leadership, in favour of their own "UKIP Youth" effort, that has since disapeared into nothing.
Sounds about right for UKIP
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You are right, young people generally do not have a big interest in Politics, but due to the serious situation vis-a-vis the EU and politics in general, I do find more interest shown by the youth around here in Broxbourne, than 35 years ago when I was a very active Young Conservative. However your 'very active Young Conservatives' back then were only active because 99% of the weekly meetings were purely for social reasons. I can only remember one MP coming to speak to us in four or five years, and then the turnout for the meeting was around one fifth of normal. At the annual bonfire night there would be two hundred or so attending, and at the dinner/dance around eighty. The weekly informal meetings would attract around thirty boys and girls !! between 16-30 yrs old!! My suggestion therefor, is that the social angle may still be strong enough in some cases to bring success. I would add that Broxbourne was then almost totally Conservative.

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What happened to Alex McKee's YouthKIP?
After months of hard work and setting up a website and getting (i think) 16 people signed up the leadership more or less told young Alex to sling his hook, and they lied saying they were going to set up Ukip youth.

Now thats what i call a forward thinking party :roll:
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So what everyone is saying is.... pretty much everyone agrees with the UKIP Youth / YouthKIP thing, apart from leadership?
Hmmmm...
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The leadership don't like anything they don't control. :twisted:

PM Alex and ask him for some contacts, nothing ventured nothing gained.

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