radical spartacus

one or two policy changes need to be in the next manifesto to appeal to moderate left of centre'swing'voters next time,it would be a mistake to think david cameron aka camerblair has moved to the 'left',he only seeks the metrosexual,and his 'A'list has already been rejected .
cameron suported the tories entry into erm in oct 1990.

1.limit or forbid building houses on greenbelt in south east of England.

2.pledge to match nuclear power with renewables eg tidal power,he power

3.more locally produced farm produce,we import at least 32% of our food supply massively dangerous,if rumania or usa have grain harvest failings

4.aid to manufacturers,we only produce 25%of our own goods,this used to be 80% in 1976

5.stress advantages of flat tax to lowest incomes poorest in society aka me and millions like myself

6.sales of school playing fields prohibited,this so called labour government has sold 500 for housing,just continued tories policy,of concreting soth east.partial responsible for 'drought' at present

any other ideas to appeal to moderate 'lefties' or radicals? :idea:

mkpdavies

I used to vote Labour, but that's when I was a kid really.

I don't really know what a Labour supporter would want anymore. I think UKIP to make sure people are aware that people in genuine need would never suffer under UKIP, while pointing out that we will always encourage people to be self reliant.

Of course UKIP could expound the virtues of controlled immigration, in that their would not be so much pressure on housing, especially for low income people.

We certainly have a strong case to put for helping 3rd world countries with free trade and focused aid, rather than the horrific damage the EU policies create.

Pensioners get a sympathetic ear from UKIP, more seo than Labour.

I would also like to see a stronger voice against the disgrace that is Iraq, but alas I feel we have a decent portion of neocons amognst us who would rally against that.

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Millennium3

I think it is likely to be the case that it is those who do, or normally, vote Labour who have been disenfranchised by New Labour, which is quite a different Party to old Labour. It is true that there have been significant measures put in place to ensure the worst off do not suffer unduly, but it seems very likely that the increasing band of non voters are they who can no longer vote Labour and would never dream of voting for the Tories. Some will vote Lib/Dem, but with great reluctance.

There is no longer a Party for, what once was called, the working class - none of the parties are catering for their needs. By moving to the centre ground NL have captured the Tory votes they needed to win an election. Now the Tories are moving left to recapture those they lost, but it seems very likely that those to the right of centre, who would normally vote, are far outweighed in number by those who would normally vote Labour, but cannot because they have moved so far to the right

Has anyone seen an analysis of the normal voting pattern of those who did not vote?

If my assumptions are correct, it makes a nonsense of UKIP trying to win seats at Westminster by formulating policies which appeal to the disgruntled right wing Tories!

eublues

At 15 in the 60s I argued for communism with school mates interested in politics and read the New Statesmen. Up to about 21 I voted Labour - thereafter Tory up to 1999, when my journey ended and I discovered UKIP.

ps - knew I had to vote NO in the 1975 referendum.

Hereward the Wake

I am a centerist liberal Ukipper, who stood in my local inner city ward in May.

Already Ukip policy.

A lot of people, and not just from the left of the party, have expressed misgivings over our power policy.

I think this will apeal more to rural and middle class voters than urban ex-labourites.

Agreed.

Agreed.

Isent this already Ukip policy?

Remove this from our manifesto: "Private health insurance schemes similar to those in France, Germany and several other countries might provide a valuable supplement to NHS resources. "

No local sales tax.

No more large scale road building.

Decisions over grammer schools left at local level.

Tom Wilde

I agree with all of Radical Spartacus' policy suggestions apart from the one about support for manufacturers. I'm not dead against that one but I am sceptical, as in the past such support has been used to prop up industries with little real future. I like all the other ones though, especially the renewable energy commitment.

I've never voted Labour. I started out as a Tory, then gradually moved to an old-fashioned liberal position. Now I'd say I'm on the liberal wing of UKIP.

kernow

brian lee

radical spartacus wroteI know it is not basic food, but yesterday I bought asparagus from my local green grocer. I bought that from Norfolk, dearer than that from Peru during the English season, and it wasn't as fresh.

At least I supported immigrant labour. I wonder, does his put me on a par with someone employing Polish plasters?

Bluemerle

My friend, a socialist, said she would never vote for Blair/labour again voted Lib/Dem.