Farage declares

Tom Wilde · 03-07-2006, 09:43 AM

Hmm, whenever a troll starts attacking Farage, I start thinking maybe he isn't so bad...

But wait! Maybe that's what Resigned Member WANTS me to think!

These are deep waters, Holmes. :?

Intbel · 03-07-2006, 09:50 AM

Depends what isbeing implied by the name "Resigned Member" doesn't it?

Is it someone who has resigned from UKIP?
Is it someone who is a member of UKIP and is resigned to the variances of opinion on policy within it?

We should be told ...

progcon.org · 03-07-2006, 11:35 AM

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Hopefully those who put out hero worship support for Farage may pause...etc

Just a small general point. Take a skilled jockey, put him on a donkey then ask him to run in the Grand National.

Would you blame him for not winning?

Millennium3 · 03-07-2006, 12:30 PM

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Originally Posted by progcon.org

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Hopefully those who put out hero worship support for Farage may pause...etc

Just a small general point. Take a skilled jockey, put him on a donkey then ask him to run in the Grand National.

Would you blame him for not winning?

Just for the sake of clarity - who exactly are you insulting?

Hartlepool · 03-07-2006, 12:51 PM

There was no requirement that he should actually win the race.

Therefore,you can not blame the jockey for not winning the race.

Nor can you blame the Donkey,it was your choice to use it in the race.

Millennium3 · 03-07-2006, 12:56 PM

Thank you. I was trying to establish who the donkey was in your analogy.

progcon.org · 03-07-2006, 02:22 PM

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Just for the sake of clarity - who exactly are you insulting?

No-one. I was seeking to highlight that it is pointless to lay the blame at the candidate's door to the person who was seeking to blame it all on Nigel.

One Londoner · 03-07-2006, 04:18 PM

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Originally Posted by progcon.org

Just a small general point. Take a skilled jockey, put him on a donkey then ask him to run in the Grand National.

Would you blame him for not winning?

I would need to know whether the jockey had any choice in the matter.

If he was contractually obliged to ride the donkey clearly it would not be the jockey's fault. If he chose to ride a donkey it would be his own fault. :?

Colin McNamee · 03-07-2006, 04:50 PM

Also were any incentives given to some of the donkeys but not to others, were some donkeys persuaded to start by a carrot on a stick and some were not :?: :roll:

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03-07-2006, 09:43 AM	#121 (permalink)
Tom Wilde Moderator Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: London. Posts: 2,924	Hmm, whenever a troll starts attacking Farage, I start thinking maybe he isn't so bad... But wait! Maybe that's what Resigned Member WANTS me to think! These are deep waters, Holmes. :?

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Hartlepool Uber Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Northern England Posts: 7,105 Party: Free England Party	There was no requirement that he should actually win the race. Therefore,you can not blame the jockey for not winning the race. Nor can you blame the Donkey,it was your choice to use it in the race.

03-07-2006, 12:56 PM	#126 (permalink)
Millennium3 Moderator Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Berkshire Posts: 4,762	Thank you. I was trying to establish who the donkey was in your analogy.

03-07-2006, 04:50 PM	#129 (permalink)
Colin McNamee Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Somerset Posts: 894	Also were any incentives given to some of the donkeys but not to others, were some donkeys persuaded to start by a carrot on a stick and some were not :?: :roll: