Party Funding

Millennium3 · 03-06-2006, 05:56 PM

This subject seems worthy of its own thread.

Jonathan Arnott wrote:
'Recruiting new members could be difficult for £5 per month/£60 per year. Persuading people to renew their membership would also become harder. £5 per month doesn't seem so much for just one person - what about families where 2,3 or 4 people are party members?

I don't think this scheme would generate £600,000 of extra income for the party, and it runs the risk of generating a decline in membership.'

Yes I agree - it would be much less - but much more than what £20 pa brings in. The Labour Party run a graduated scheme, membership depends on how much you earn. I do not think that would work for UKIP - but with the Labour Party £5 is the fee for an average earner.

Why should Labour Party members be so much more devoted than UKIP members - you would think the reverse would be true. Provided you allowed a concessionary fee for those who could not afford the £5 pm, I do not think you would lose many members and those you kept would be serious in their convictions.

Perhaps a more important issue is that, if the membership do fund the Party, they have every right to expect their views to be listened to by the leadership and maybe the leadership would be more willing to do so. It does not take long, when reading this forum, to realise this is the great bone of contention with the activists.

Intbel · 03-06-2006, 07:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Millennium3

It does not take long, when reading this forum, to realise this is the great bone of contention with the activists.

Very few folks post to this forum.
The number of members which posts on this forum, compared with the total membership is neglible.

Millennium3 · 03-06-2006, 07:44 PM

I am sure that the leadership would prefer them onside.

Hartlepool · 03-06-2006, 08:16 PM

And I am equally sure that the UKIP Members would like to consider the Leadership onside as well.

This stuff works both ways.

kernow · 03-06-2006, 08:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Intbel

The number of members which posts on this forum, compared with the total membership is neglible.[/color]

Absolutely! There are a few people who post on this forum who think they are UKIP and that this forum is all there is to UKIP, big fish in little pond springs to mind!

Intbel · 03-06-2006, 08:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kernow

Absolutely! There are a few people who post on this forum who think they are UKIP and that this forum is all there is to UKIP, big fish in little pond springs to mind!

Yep, very much so.
I think this forum is doing UKIP more harm than good and I do not anticipate it existing for much longer.

Hartlepool · 03-06-2006, 08:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kernow

Quote:

Originally Posted by Intbel

The number of members which posts on this forum, compared with the total membership is neglible.[/color]

Absolutely! There are a few people who post on this forum who think they are UKIP and that this forum is all there is to UKIP, big fish in little pond springs to mind!

Well done kernow,you managed to string more than a few words together in this post,usually you post with something like,"I agree 100%"which can not be claimed as an all time statement,can it.

Next thing you will be offering up joined up writing and stuff.

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mkpdavies · 04-06-2006, 08:31 AM

Quote:

Yep, very much so.
I think this forum is doing UKIP more harm than good and I do not anticipate it existing for much longer.

Sometimes Intbel you can be spectacularly wrong.

This place will be around for ages, whether it's supportive of UKIP or not.

Alex McKee · 04-06-2006, 08:47 AM

I disagree. It seems to be full of trolls and wind-up merchants. I can't see it lasting for "ages". At least, not in a meaningful way. In the end it'll be a few genuine people with a thousand trolls.

Some might describe it thus now.

mkpdavies · 04-06-2006, 08:50 AM

That's a different argument.

It'll still be around.

03-06-2006, 05:56 PM	#1 (permalink)
Millennium3 Moderator Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Berkshire Posts: 4,616	Party Funding This subject seems worthy of its own thread. Jonathan Arnott wrote: 'Recruiting new members could be difficult for £5 per month/£60 per year. Persuading people to renew their membership would also become harder. £5 per month doesn't seem so much for just one person - what about families where 2,3 or 4 people are party members? I don't think this scheme would generate £600,000 of extra income for the party, and it runs the risk of generating a decline in membership.' Yes I agree - it would be much less - but much more than what £20 pa brings in. The Labour Party run a graduated scheme, membership depends on how much you earn. I do not think that would work for UKIP - but with the Labour Party £5 is the fee for an average earner. Why should Labour Party members be so much more devoted than UKIP members - you would think the reverse would be true. Provided you allowed a concessionary fee for those who could not afford the £5 pm, I do not think you would lose many members and those you kept would be serious in their convictions. Perhaps a more important issue is that, if the membership do fund the Party, they have every right to expect their views to be listened to by the leadership and maybe the leadership would be more willing to do so. It does not take long, when reading this forum, to realise this is the great bone of contention with the activists.

04-06-2006, 08:50 AM	#10 (permalink)
mkpdavies Uber Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Woking Posts: 31,183 Party: Libertarian Party	That's a different argument. It'll still be around. __________________ http://brits4ronpaul.blogspot.com/ http://wokinglibertarians.blogspot.com/ http://lpuk.org My ignore list Labour, Blue Labour, Lib Dems

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03-06-2006, 07:44 PM	#3 (permalink)
Millennium3 Moderator Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Berkshire Posts: 4,616	I am sure that the leadership would prefer them onside.

03-06-2006, 08:16 PM	#4 (permalink)
Hartlepool Uber Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: North East England Posts: 6,817 Party: Popular Democrats	And I am equally sure that the UKIP Members would like to consider the Leadership onside as well. This stuff works both ways.

04-06-2006, 08:47 AM	#9 (permalink)
Alex McKee Moderator Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Gloucester Posts: 6,666	I disagree. It seems to be full of trolls and wind-up merchants. I can't see it lasting for "ages". At least, not in a meaningful way. In the end it'll be a few genuine people with a thousand trolls. Some might describe it thus now.