UK Independence Party South East Rally

Intbel · 04-06-2006, 01:35 PM

I am feeling positive - the UKIP camp has a secret weapon which will make a massive difference.

Watch it all unfold ...

Hartlepool · 04-06-2006, 02:02 PM

I hope we're not parking tanks on peoples lawns again.

Andrew Constantine · 04-06-2006, 04:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Martin Harvey

The only controversial subject was 'English Parliament'. This has enormous constitutional implication, and needs research by constitutional experts. I would suggest that UKIP needs to maintain the status quo, on the basis that to withdraw from the EU, we need the various Acts of Parliament in place that provide the legitimacy of Westminster, as a vehicle to pass the neccessary lagislation needed for withdrawal. This argument also blows the English Democrats out. However, a compromise might be for England to withdraw from the EU, and Scotland decide whether to be governed by the EU or seek a deal with England. Martin Harvey.

Martin

I am not sure about the above mentioned difficulties because it was my understanding that such a break up of the English and Scottish Union would be straightforward for the following reasons:

There is a well defined historic border
The ownership of territorial waters would follow international law.
England when it is out of the EU would be a free trader, so unlikey to wish to minimise trade with Scotland.
Scottish nationals would still be welcome in England as they are now.
There would have to be some agreements on say, defence and foreign affairs (although if Scotland chose to stay in the EU, increasingly these will be EU competances).
The Scots already have their own legal system and legislate on a number of domestic areas already, irrespective what the Westminster Parliament does.

The major change that I forese would be that the Lib-Lab-Con parties in England would have to change to pro-English policies. Well overdue!

A future English government would also have to decide what to do with the mountain of cash that we English would otherwise be paying to the EU and to Scotland. Perhaps an English government might decide not to take it from English taxpayers in the first place and allow us to spend our own money....

Niall Warry · 04-06-2006, 05:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Intbel

If I'm not surrounded by philistines I'm surrounded by pessimists.

How do I find myself in such negative company?

There is optimistic and realistic in this case. UKIP really has to pick it's fight more sensibly and stop wasting money.
Work smarter not harder and put sanity before vanity in our efforts to get us out the EU.

Resigned Member · 04-06-2006, 06:14 PM

Robin Page was the star-o dear- as in 1999-just shows how far the Faragistas have got that they had to bring back the smelly coarse mouthed Page of 7 years ago and incredibly there were some old dears who were 'uplifted'. They dont get it -it was a rally of the Faragistas plus some wallpaper.

Mikeuk · 04-06-2006, 06:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Intbel

I am feeling positive - the UKIP camp has a secret weapon which will make a massive difference.

Watch it all unfold ...

Don't tell us. You're going to drop your guts and gas the opposition after a marathon session in a curry house. :shock:

:twisted: :wink:

Mikeuk · 04-06-2006, 06:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Resigned Member

Robin Page was the star-o dear- as in 1999-just shows how far the Faragistas have got that they had to bring back the smelly coarse mouthed Page of 7 years ago and incredibly there were some old dears who were 'uplifted'. They dont get it -it was a rally of the Faragistas plus some wallpaper.

Oh you were there, were you?

You weren't one of the two BNP demonstrators who came in and sat in the audience by any chance?

Intbel · 04-06-2006, 08:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Mikeuk

Don't tell us. You're going to drop your guts and gas the opposition after a marathon session in a curry house. :shock:

:twisted: :wink:

Mikeuk · 04-06-2006, 11:42 PM

Oh right. That's confirmed then

BTW, if this 'secret weapon' (so secret you know all about it) fails to materialise, do we get to be told what it was supposed to be?

Or is this just another fantasy?

Intbel · 04-06-2006, 11:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Mikeuk

BTW, if this 'secret weapon' (so secret you know all about it) fails to materialise, do we get to be told what it was supposed to be?
Or is this just another fantasy?

No fantasy.
It will be in operation.
That's all you need to know.
You think for one moment I'd put the details on a public forum?
Folks know on a need-to-know basis.
You are not included.
Sorry about that.

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Resigned Member Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 160	UK Independence Party Robin Page was the star-o dear- as in 1999-just shows how far the Faragistas have got that they had to bring back the smelly coarse mouthed Page of 7 years ago and incredibly there were some old dears who were 'uplifted'. They dont get it -it was a rally of the Faragistas plus some wallpaper.

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04-06-2006, 02:02 PM	#32 (permalink)
Hartlepool Uber Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Northern England Posts: 7,105 Party: Free England Party	I hope we're not parking tanks on peoples lawns again.

04-06-2006, 11:42 PM	#39 (permalink)
Mikeuk Banned Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Fareham Posts: 5,761 Party: Conservatives	Oh right. That's confirmed then BTW, if this 'secret weapon' (so secret you know all about it) fails to materialise, do we get to be told what it was supposed to be? Or is this just another fantasy?