Resignation of a decent and honourable man

Niall Warry · 02-06-2006, 11:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Hartlepool

The bnp want out of the EU.

Thought you have certainly known that one NW. :wink:

http://www.bnp.org.uk/candidates2005...sto/manf1.html

Yes I did know that but I discount them because of their policies and associations which makes them unacceptable to decent and informed people.

Hartlepool · 02-06-2006, 11:45 AM

I hope people dont say the same about UKIP,both these Party's want out of the EU and that certainly answers your original question.

Your original question was,"Which other Party wants to leave the EU?"

Question answered?

Millennium3 · 02-06-2006, 12:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Millennium3

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Originally Posted by English Democrat

Mike Davies Wrote

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We all have an option.

Either give in and go and try and make it work elsewhere OR

Stick it out and purge the poison that has constantly held this party back over the years.

English Democrats would of course welcome people from UKIP, especially activists.

I'd be happy to have a beer and discuss - I can also put you in touch with ex-UKippers now in the English Democrats, hopefully they will give a reference that we really are a Democratic well run organisation, and growing !

ED

What happens when England leaves the EU and Scotland and Wales stay in. Isn't harder to control land borders than coastal? What about the monarchy?

Forget this question. I had assumed ED's wanted to leave the EU. Why would ex Ukipper join ED?

michael mcgough · 02-06-2006, 12:16 PM

aHaven't you all drifted off topic?

Niall Warry · 04-06-2006, 05:55 PM

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Originally Posted by michael mcgough

aHaven't you all drifted off topic?

Yes we have. GK's resignation is proof that all is not well in the higher echlons of our party.

Johnny Hates Jazz · 04-06-2006, 06:34 PM

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I had assumed ED's wanted to leave the EU.

Why would ex Ukipper join ED?

Good question

Maybe we should do a survey of the 100+ UKIP people who have joined the English Democrats and find out their thought process.

Cerainly once you can get past the Unionist/Natinoalist debate, then the differences in Policy Between UKIP and English Democrats is paper thin.

If I'm missing something then please let me know !

ED

Colin McNamee · 04-06-2006, 08:37 PM

English Democrat wrote

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If I'm missing something then please let me know !

English = British meaning the United Kingdom = UKIP.

ryansoton · 05-06-2006, 12:00 AM

Well they have kept this quiet!!
We need a new leader and we need a new leader quick. One that will take this party forward again and one who can stop the sort of thing that has happened to GK from happening again.
Too many times in UKIP good decent men/women are driven out.

andypandy · 05-06-2006, 10:36 AM

I have spoken with several ex-UKIP people in the North West over the last few weeks, and the sole reason they left (they say) was due to the arrogance of Greg Beaman in his organising of local branches.

It seems the trouble started in 2004 at around the time he became John Whittaker's nicely paid 'assistant', and decided to simply by-pass well established local activists (combined membership of about 15-20 years between them - for those that do not understand, that means 4 x 5/6 year memberships) in the organising of a branch. A few of those people went to Veritas, one stayed with UKIP, but refused to co-operate with the imposed local UKIP committee.

Simply re-organising the UKIP leadership wil not solve what are clearly local prolems UKIP has with the way in which some of its officials like to do business.

UKIP people TALK about building bridge with ex members, but UKIP officals WALK over the issue of building bridges.

Johnny Hates Jazz · 05-06-2006, 11:57 AM

Mac1

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English = British meaning the United Kingdom = UKIP.

Dear Mac

This is a rather strange forumala that you have created.

Did you pass your O level mathematics ?

Maybe you need to read some history to understand the difference between

England = England (Crazy I know) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/England
Britain or Great Britain = England, Scotland & Wales http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Britain
United Kingdom = United Kingdom of Great Britain and N Ireland (England, Scotland, Wales & N Ireland - used to be the whole of Ireland!)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_kingdom

Once you have looked at this information, then let me know, and I am quite happy to enter a debate.

Regards

ED

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02-06-2006, 11:45 AM	#32 (permalink)
Hartlepool Uber Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Northern England Posts: 7,105 Party: Free England Party	I hope people dont say the same about UKIP,both these Party's want out of the EU and that certainly answers your original question. Your original question was,"Which other Party wants to leave the EU?" Question answered?

02-06-2006, 12:16 PM	#34 (permalink)
michael mcgough Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Essex Posts: 1,254	aHaven't you all drifted off topic?

05-06-2006, 12:00 AM	#38 (permalink)
ryansoton Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Southampton Posts: 782 Party: Other	Well they have kept this quiet!! We need a new leader and we need a new leader quick. One that will take this party forward again and one who can stop the sort of thing that has happened to GK from happening again. Too many times in UKIP good decent men/women are driven out.

05-06-2006, 10:36 AM	#39 (permalink)
andypandy Senior Member Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 880	I have spoken with several ex-UKIP people in the North West over the last few weeks, and the sole reason they left (they say) was due to the arrogance of Greg Beaman in his organising of local branches. It seems the trouble started in 2004 at around the time he became John Whittaker's nicely paid 'assistant', and decided to simply by-pass well established local activists (combined membership of about 15-20 years between them - for those that do not understand, that means 4 x 5/6 year memberships) in the organising of a branch. A few of those people went to Veritas, one stayed with UKIP, but refused to co-operate with the imposed local UKIP committee. Simply re-organising the UKIP leadership wil not solve what are clearly local prolems UKIP has with the way in which some of its officials like to do business. UKIP people TALK about building bridge with ex members, but UKIP officals WALK over the issue of building bridges.