Knife Crime

David Holland · 31-05-2006, 02:17 PM

From the bbc have your say how to deal with knife crime :-

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Added: Wednesday, 31 May, 2006, 10:37 GMT 11:37 UK

Simple; introduce a credible deterrent.

Murder/attempted murder with a knife - life in jail. With 'life' actually meaning life.

Threatening with a knife - ten years in jail.

Caught in possession - five years in jail.

As a society we're now more concerned with the human rights of criminals than protecting decent law-abiding people like that chap on the train. How sad is that?

Richard Moorehead, Nottingham, United Kingdom

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Any chance of anything like this being UKIP policy ? I can't see it being very controversial.

mkpdavies · 31-05-2006, 02:38 PM

Don't like the possesion bit.

David Holland · 31-05-2006, 02:50 PM

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Originally Posted by mkpdavies

Don't like the possesion bit.

That could be regarded as a bit harsh, however the rest could definetly be UKIP policy.

mkpdavies · 31-05-2006, 02:55 PM

Yep I agree.

Do the crime, you get the time *2.

David Holland · 31-05-2006, 02:58 PM

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Originally Posted by mkpdavies

Yep I agree.

Do the crime, you get the time *2.

Maybe we could campaign on something like this in the byelection.

Jerusalem · 31-05-2006, 03:08 PM

None of these sentences matter unless we have some sort of control over judges and the probation system. A year in jail for possession is adequate deterant if we can be sure that the police will stop and search people (without fear of being called racist), that judges are accountable to the electorate, and the probation service likewise.

mkpdavies · 31-05-2006, 03:15 PM

I don't think prison is justified for possessing a tool.

kernow · 31-05-2006, 03:45 PM

Possession is too harsh, anybody could plant a knife, plus every "Butcher" in the Kingdom would be open to arrest! I agree with all the other punishments, I'm just a bit sad no-ones mentioned "Flogging"

Hartlepool · 31-05-2006, 04:38 PM

Yeh,anyone caught flogging knives will be Birched to bits. :wink:

David Holland · 31-05-2006, 05:33 PM

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Originally Posted by kernow

Possession is too harsh, anybody could plant a knife, plus every "Butcher" in the Kingdom would be open to arrest! I agree with all the other punishments, I'm just a bit sad no-ones mentioned "Flogging"

I think for some type of knives prison would be fair eg flick knives etc (ie not dual use).
Regarding possession it would be difficult to plant a knife particulary with CCTV everywhere don't forget there would a burden of proof as now.

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31-05-2006, 03:08 PM	#6 (permalink)
Jerusalem Junior Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: London Posts: 56	None of these sentences matter unless we have some sort of control over judges and the probation system. A year in jail for possession is adequate deterant if we can be sure that the police will stop and search people (without fear of being called racist), that judges are accountable to the electorate, and the probation service likewise.

31-05-2006, 03:45 PM	#8 (permalink)
kernow Uber Member Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 5,184	Possession is too harsh, anybody could plant a knife, plus every "Butcher" in the Kingdom would be open to arrest! I agree with all the other punishments, I'm just a bit sad no-ones mentioned "Flogging"

31-05-2006, 04:38 PM	#9 (permalink)
Hartlepool Uber Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: North East England Posts: 6,817 Party: Popular Democrats	Yeh,anyone caught flogging knives will be Birched to bits. :wink: