Intbel

I have carried a knife as a matter of course since childhood.
It is a useful tool which comes in useful on many occasions.

Am I now a criminal? I guess I am 'cos I am ignoring this law.

What next, the criminalisation of grannies with hatpins?
How about steel combs? They can be most useful as a weapon.
I have a selection of 'string' ties - one of which has a heavy brass wolf's head - that could cause serious damage to a person's face.

Mebbe they'll ban steel toe-capped boots just in case its wearer may kick someone in the nuts?

A bunch of keys can do serious damage.

I am not permitted to carry a cosh .. no matter .. a four-cell Maglite is a perfect legal substitute.

The point is, if someone wishes to carry a weapon they will do so - legally.
Many general items can be used as weapons for those who desire to use them as such.

Banning the carrying of knives is stupid and pointless.
As was the banning of firearms.
Indeed, gun crime has increased since the banning of firearms.
Drug use has increased despite drugs being made illegal.

Our law-makers haven't got a freakin' clue.

Their objective appears to render the population defenseless while neglecting to provide the means for its defence via adequate policing or via crime prevention.

Our law makers are not on our side, that much is obvious, yet they are still elected again and again.

There are a lot of stupid people.

Fuggem all.

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kernow

[quote="Jerusalem"]None of these sentences matter unless we have some sort of control over judges and the probation system. quote]

!Unfortunately this is absolutely true! How some judges arrive at the decision to sentence a criminal to a light sentence after the criminal has committed what to the general public opinion is a heineous crime I will never know. This puts most judges in my opinion in the "Should be shot" gallery

Intbel

Er ... I used to carry a flick-knife.
Not as a weapon.
Not easy opening an ordinary claspknife/penknife/lock-knife when you're perched 30 feet in the air on a length of 4 by 2 and holding wiring in one hand while the whole plot is moving in the wind.

To be able to open a knife with the press of a button is most useful in such circumstances.

Flick knives have their legitimate uses and to ban them just because they might be used as a weapon is stupid for it deprives folks of a legitimate useful tool.

What next - banning umbrellas 'cos an umbrella may be used to stab someone?
How about walking-sticks? Formidable weapons in the right hands.

Our law makers have got their heads so far up where the sun don't shine they canna smell anything good in themselves and ass-ume all other folks are equally obnoxious.

Bleh.

David Holland

If they have a legitimate use fair enough, however some knuckle dusters are only weapons.

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Intbel

Well, yes, knuckle dusters have no use other than as weapons.
Er ... where do knuckle-dusters come into this?

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pentameter

They didn't ban firearms. After Dunblane, there was a ban on handguns which were surrendered for a price. A lot of people who had pistols went and bought carbines and it was business as usual. They made life harder for shotgun users as well. As you say, it did absolutely nothing to reduce gun crime. Legitimately held guns are very rarely used in crime.

Haven't flick-knives been illegal since the 50s? I seem to recall that for a long time there was a leaflet from HM Customs describing flick-knives, horror comics and shrunken heads as contraband.

I'm sure there's some sort of legislation in place concerning carrying knives from way back when. Ceremonial daggers, as in traditional Scottish dress were an exception I recall. Generally, a law trying to ban carrying knives is just silly. There are too many legitimate reasons for carrying knives.

Knife amnesties and talk of banning people carrying knives is a lot easier than doing anything substantial to tackle the problem.

kernow

I carried a flick knife 50 years ago :shock: and it was definately illegal then! A friend of mine at the time brought it back for me as a present after a family holiday in London!

Bluemerle

It is just another way of controlling people, so now only the criminals carry firearms.

There is a big question hanging over Dunblane. Why has the Cullen Report into Dunblane been embargoed for 100 years??

Nobody connected will be alive when the truth comes out. What is it hiding??

David Holland

Some of the weapons given under the amnesty were knuckle dusters and knives combined.

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mkpdavies

A weapon is a tool, like anything else can be misused.

If a woman is walking down the street at night and feels more comfortable if she has an equaliser, for incase she is attacked, how can that be wrong?

You can't punish people for possesing such things, it is a waste of time and unfair. You punish the people that actually use such tools to attack or threaten with no reason, an make it very severe.

If you ban knifes, the same thugs that would misuse them will either ignore the law or just select a new weapon. Do you know how much damage you could do with a football sock and a full can of coke? Would you ban them too?

Sanity has to be restored, where actual crimes are punished harshly, not the posability that someone could misuse a tool. Getting rid of knives will not stop people being hurt.

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