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Old 07-05-2006, 10:30 AM   #11 (permalink)
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Poor old UKIP! This is not going to help at all .It makes us look like all the other parties .

This is a serious lack of judgement by Roger ,he has put his own financial considerations before the considerations of the party .

He should now consider his own position .
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Old 07-05-2006, 10:54 AM   #12 (permalink)
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I agree with Petrina, R Knapman should consider his position and act. His actions have/will make us a laughing stock and undermines the inteqrity of our policies and party. Is there no party that can be transparent.
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Old 07-05-2006, 10:57 AM   #13 (permalink)
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Yes I also agree with Petrina. I do not accept Pentameters assertion that this is minor humbug - this is major league humbug. If Knapman’s son has gone to the trouble of setting up a business in Poland hiring labour destined for these shores - does it not imply that the family see our membership of the EU as an enduring condition.

Knapman is the leader of the Party. There have been a number of comments highlighting the fact that of our MEP’s only GB has made any real attempt to help during the Council elections. It was, after all, the leaderships decision to enter the contest . The least we should have expected from our leader was that he spent all possible available time here - working with the best placed candidates.

There also have been suggestions that the MEP’s spend all their time in Brussels, and not here building the Party nationally, because they benefit financially from this course of action - this story reinforces the idea that Knapman, at least, is in it for the money.

How much of his time, whilst in Europe, has been spent helping his son to build his business?
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Old 07-05-2006, 11:02 AM   #14 (permalink)
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How much of his time, whilst in Europe, has been spent helping his son to build his business?
Europe wouldn't know, since he has not declared any business financial interests as required by the EU as an MEP.
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Old 07-05-2006, 12:18 PM   #15 (permalink)
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I wish it was a joke.

Never mind John Presott, what is the point of Roger Knapman exactly?

Anyone who actually works for a living in this country is fed up with the
masses of cheap labour coming here and pushing down wages. I have great sympathy with the complaints of British craftsmen about this unfair
competition. And most of the money they earn goes out of the country - it
is not spent here. At Roger's mansion they are getting their accomodation
free whereas British workers have families to support and have to pay UK
prices. It is not just labourers though as many tens of thousands of
professionals are working here on short term contracts with the same end
result, increasing the numbers of unemployed and lowering wages.

Well done Rog - another spectacular own goal.

UKIP has to end this fixed term for a leader. When someone is so patently
hopeless as Roger Knapman then the party has to have the means to get rid of him. Unfortunately Nigel wanted this extra protection built in to the
Constitution to protect him and Roger in case the members wanted to assert themselves with the result that Roger has limped on 2 years after he should have gone.
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Old 07-05-2006, 12:25 PM   #16 (permalink)
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Now we know one of the reasons RKS Left to start another party, UKIP Leadership Double Standards, In it for the money, not the BRITISH PEOPLE :twisted:
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Old 07-05-2006, 12:31 PM   #17 (permalink)
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Roger should have done the decent thing and resigned after the general election.

He should do the decent thing and resign after our dismal results in the local elections.

And the hypocrisy of opposing the influx of cheap polish workers and then using them for your own financial gain is just bloody unbelievable, not only should he resign over this issue he should send every member an apology for being so inconsiderate, how the hell can I look people in the face when I’ve been saying how wrong this influx of foreign worker are.

By the way I am having new bathroom fitted and am more than prepared to pay the going rate and not use cheap polish labour, I suppose that’s because I’ve got principles.
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I think Rogerr should resign because of our results.
However UKIP has not said that we will stop all immigration therefore using foreign labourers is not a problem. We have to pay the costs of the EU so why not enjoy the - limited - benefits.

Can I just say that I have no problems with the broad thrust of our immigration policy although I think it is missing some details (like eg we need to stop people reciving benefits for their first 2-5 years in the UK).
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If this is true then he should resign and if he will not resign the NEC should expel him.

Our web site gravely states - under the ‘5 Freedoms’:

No more 'economic' immigration will be entertained except in very exceptional circumstances. If we cannot run our own country with sixty million people. Then when will we ever be able to run it?

The ‘very exceptional circumstances’ seems to be ‘when our leader can make an indecent profit from the arrangement’.

It is one thing being an inept political party - this makes us a laughing stock.
Not just a laughing stock - it also makes us look like hypocrits. Its surely time for new blood.
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However UKIP has not said that we will stop all immigration therefore using foreign labourers is not a problem. We have to pay the costs of the EU so why not enjoy the - limited - benefits.
Sorry Dave i don't agree how can Roger justify his use of cheap immigrant workers and make the following statement

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