B.A.Ware

Due to the farce with releasing foreign criminals let out INTO phpbb_society, here is my idea for a policy addressing this issue.

All immigrants that are not registered as British Citizens that are convicted of any crime are sent back to their country of origin for trial and sentencing.

(I don’t know what it costs to keep people in prison but I have heard a figure of around £2000 pounds a week)

To achieve this we would offer the countries of origin half the costs of us keeping them (£1000) this would save us 50% of the cost and some of the poorer countries would make a profit out of it.

Before someone says we should just kick them out that would hardly be a deterrent from coming here in the first place.

John Page

For trial? And suppose the sentence they got overseas was minimal?
How much does it cost to house a prisoner in (say) Kenya and how could we be sure the criminal couldn't bribe his way out before the end of the sentence?

I do think that "Human Rights" should not apply to foreign criminals and that they should have to work for their keep.

adrianwainer

A useful reform

introduce hanging for terrorist murder attacks

Best and Warm Regards
Adrian Wainer

adrianwainer

Bonkers! Let them eat Cake!

B A Ware wrote

e.g. if some Palestian nationals had been involved with the recent bus and tube bombing in London and they were sent back to the West Bank or Gaza, Hamas would probably thank them with a Cake, a party, a free car and a state pension, some punishment!

Best and Warm Regards
Adrian Wainer

Intbel

What would that achieve?

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B.A.Ware

Well that’s not our problem because they would be banned from our country, the other option is we pay for their trial we pay for their incarceration and then we pay to deport them and then they just come back and we repeat the process.

Do we care as long as if they come back they are classified as banned, plus we would be paying these governments large amounts of money to implement this do you really think they would want to have a diplomatic incident over a rapist or a mugger.


I disagree human rights should apply thats what makes us different. but what should happen is they pay the price in their own countries which I'm pretty sure is harsher than in ours with which is probably one of the reasons they are not afraid of crime over here.

adrianwainer

introduce hanging for terrorist murder attacks

Intbel wrote
Their pals would not have the option of say hijacking an aircraft and threatening to kill the passengers to secure the release of convicted terrorists held in UK jails, since they would have been hanged and therefor would be dead.

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Adrian Wainer
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Intbel

That is true. However, if they were executed mightn't their pals blow up or just kill some folks instead in retaliation?

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adrianwainer

Intbel wrote
That is exactly true and a good point, unfortunately there is no such thing as a free lunch. By hanging the terrorists one would certainly encourage some people to see the hanged terrorists as martyrs and thus get engaged in terrorist activity [ who would otherwise not have done so ]. However I would argue that cost is offset by the fact that some people would be discouraged from engageing in terrorist attacks by the threat of incuring a hanging for themselves, convicted terrorists could not escape justice by being freed in a hostage swap since they would be dead from hanging and the Jihadi movement would be denied the propaganda coup which would encourage more people in to terrorism, which they would get by freeing convicted terrorists in a hostage swap.

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Adrian Wainer
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Intbel

I remain unconvinced ... and still firmly against the death penalty.