Johnny Hates Jazz

I believe the protest vote will to to the BNP.

The protest vote went to UKIP in 2004, but you guys 'blew it' with the Kilroy Leadership debarcle.

This time around there are some

English Democrats/UKIP 'Tests'

and some

English Democrats/UKIP/BNP 'Tests'

These will be interested to gauge English Nationalism v British Nationalism

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Britannist

It wil also be interesting to see how the Conservatives and the Fiberal Dimoprats (LD) do in view of David Cameron's speeches in which he said he was 'a liberal Conservative'. Will this bring in the extra votes from LD supporters switching directly from LD to Conservative in key wards/key constituencies? Or could the votes actually go the other way as people decide to vote for the real thing (for LD).

I believe that Mr. Cameron should be verbally attacking europhile Campbell's Fiberal Dimoprats (Fib Dims) - not comparing himself to them.

This is likely to be the the most important factor observers will be looking at in next month's local elections. It will also be interesting to see who benefits the most from the Conservative-LD coalition in Birmingham which is also up for election next month. Will the voters reward one of the two mentioned parties more than the other - or will both lose out. Will David Cameron find that all the Conservatives get by 'going in' with LD is more seat losses (from Conservative to LD).

My view is that true Conservatives (i.e. sovereigntists) should be co-operating more with UKIP and/or English Democrats rather than with the fanatically pro-euro Fib Dims.

Matt O'Grady

UKIP will lose what little local council influence it has. Last time around UKIP were getting a lot more publicity than currently, mainly based around Kilroy Silk. This time the only publicity you've had is from Cameron pointing out what nut-jobs you are.

Colin McNamee

Matt, now, I don't want to be pickie but...



Hello, again. True to the Fib Dim beliefs then. Say one (or two) things & do another.

young niave boy who entered out of his depth.

OK

How are the studies ? :wink:

Matt O'Grady

Sarcasm, another point not grasped by UKIP. Probably the fault of the EU.

The studies aren't going great, I am a master at wasting time 8)

Britannist

"O'Grady" wrote (above) at 7.31 pm on 15.42006: This time the only publicity you've had is from Cameron pointing out what nut-jobs you are.

My reply: UKIP have never had as much bad publicity as "O'Grady's" europhile Fiberal Dimoprats. Let's have a refresher on previous Fiberal/Fiberal Dimoprat leaders: Thorpe - up in court on conspiracy to murder charges. Steele - brought in disgusting Abortion Act saying it would cut number of abortions (the reverse happened). Paddy Pantsdown (Ashdown) - alleged adulterer. Kennedy - too much alcohol.

And then there were the little skirmishes of January just gone: Kennedy kicked out like a dog in the night having brought good results for the Fib Dims in two consecutive General Elections. Hughes - out of the Gay closet 23 years after running a vicious anti-Gay campaign against Tatchell at the famous Bermondsey By-Election. Mark Oaten (no comment on the lurid allegations in the News of the World - this is the most important religious day of the year).

Apart from the stinking reputation the Fib Dims have in British politics for dishonesty, "O'Grady" still comes on here and has the cheek to quote someone saying UKIP are nuts. In view of the above, I take the view that no member of the fanatically europhile and hypocritical Fib Dims has any right to point the finger at another party and criticise it.

Matt O'Grady

I'll agree, we've had our share of bad publicity, especially the past couple of months, but UKIP have had almost zero coverage, compared to say in 2004 where you were getting a significant amount. I don't see you doing well in this election, but to be fair, looking at all the Parties at the moment, I can't say there are any that things have gone well for recently!

Britannist

Thank you for your speedy response M.O.G.

I can't make any real prediction of the results of the local elections - other than to say that Labour will do badly just about everywhere (everyone expects this) and there is talk that the Conservatives may also lose some seats overall. How well UKIP does overall depends entirely (in my view) on the performance of other small parties - UKIP and Veritas and UKIP and the English Democrats will be 'going head to head' in some wards, I think.

You've said in another posting that they're not having elections in your area -so i suspect the whole thing is not that exciting anyway to you. Here in London its the very reverse - councils (Boroughs) elect all seats every four years - and this is one of those years. I think the Conservative Party will make some gains and Labour be the main loser in the capital (as they were in 2004 when the Assembly/Mayor and EU Elections all took place on the same day).

Matt O'Grady

The thing is, if UKIP, Veritas and the ED's go head to head, you'll split the vote and all end up with nothing. Until the anti-EU parties learn to fight together, none of you are going to end up with anything.

If I'd of been able to afford to take some time off work, I would of used my Uni holidays to go back to Somerset and do some campaigning, but there is still plenty going on here. Just fought a very hard Student Union election (which I was second in :evil: ) and we're currently in the process of selecting our candidates for the Welsh Assembly elections next year. With the decline of Plaid, I think next year will be a very good year for the Welsh Liberal Democrats.

Britannist

I agree that some of these small parties will split votes. A few of them need to be shut down (like Veritas). I think the Veritas national membership is now so small the next party conference is to be held in a telephone kiosk.

As for Plaid Cymru. I'm glad to read they are not doing so well. I don't believe in breaking the UK up. The only thing I'll say for PC is that their literature/leaflets seem quite good.

But that's just my view. I tend to look at leaflets of the different parties in a non-political way and decide which have the best in any particular campaign on their presentational efforts - and not on my own views.

For instance, I don't like the logos of the Labour/Conservative/LD/Veritas parties. They all need to change them. But they may all disagree and it's all down to personal taste, I suppose :shock: .