New Logo?

eublues · 30-03-2006, 02:05 PM

I agree go a bit soft on the EU issue - though what is happening now to destroy local democracy is ALMOST ENTIRELY because of Prescott bringing in EU regionalisation by stealth.

CHRIS CHAPMAN · 31-03-2006, 07:29 AM

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Originally Posted by eublues

I agree go a bit soft on the EU issue - though what is happening now to destroy local democracy is ALMOST ENTIRELY because of Prescott bringing in EU regionalisation by stealth.

Maybe that is a good way of keeping the European issuse in the literature without it being the main point......explain that Europe is interferring in local government aswell...and we also get to expose again the willingness of Labour to utilise European directives to the detriment of our country......

Colin McNamee · 02-04-2006, 09:36 PM

Change the logo, like British Airways, Coke a Cola and a host of others ? Who then changed back.

Yeah right. C'mon guys get real. Any more Aunt Sallies ?

brian lee · 03-04-2006, 12:08 AM

Assuming one is seriously interested in day to day problems, one puts forward ideas that are connected with the day to day. It is no use blaming all the problems on the EU. As a councillor one has to do one's best within the system and lobby to try to improve it. - Cutting council tax by 50% is not an option for local councils, and even if every council in the land was controlled by UKIP members they would not be able to make that reduction.

Within local authority jurisdiction decisions are made about cutting budgets. One of the big problems is the fact that more than half the cost of local authority pensions is funded by the council tax payer. As there is a shortfall for the final salary schemes, someone has to pay. The cost will be borne by either council tax payers, many of them on poor pensions themselves, or central government. - That is a serious question. If, for example, the government cannot pay because of some EU Rule, that is their problem. We should still blame the government not the EU.

Anyone who reads Booker's column in the Sunday Telegraph will know that EU directives are one thing, what comes out from government departments are another.

Jerusalem · 03-04-2006, 01:25 PM

I don't even know entirely what UKIP's views on local goverment is. I would like
- abolition of council tax in favour of local income tax
- an invoice on where the money goes
- and an assessment on every council employee and what he or she does. Isn't it stricking how so many didn't even notice when they went on strike? What exactly do most of them do?
- And therefore a reduction in tax - it can be done! Our council could save money by not translating their local government leaflet INTO phpbb_20 different languages.
- Greater incentives for people to improve their homes. If we do anything up we just go up a band, so why bother? But the council should encourage people to work on their houses. Maybe tax breaks for exterior improvements.
- Stricter rules on good behaviour for council tennants. People who make council estates grim should be isolated, as in Dundee, and if they don't improve, kicked out.
- A commitment to better architecture and promises to knock down eyesores.

I haven't seen or heard any activity in my part of London, though I know UKIP have a candidate in my ward.

Intbel · 03-04-2006, 11:05 PM

I have been thinking about the logo thingo ...

Surprising at it may seem to some, thinking is something of which I am most capable when an unusual amount of effeort is applied.

Anyways ... having thought, I concluded two things:

1) Yes, the logo needs changing.
2) As the pound sign is established it is good to keep the pound sign

Obviously, then, to keep the pound while changing the logo, there is only one option and that is, change the pound, ennit?

So "what is wrong with the current pound?" I asked myself and concluded it is rather like Roger Knapman - solid and dependable while lacking a certain chutzpah.

The task then, is to design a pound which whilst being instantly recognised as a pound and having the same colours as it has currently, has chutzpah.

It also has to be instantly recogniseable as the UKIP pound while being totally different from the current UKIP pound.

So that is what I did.

Here is the result - an initial rough put forward for serious consideration.

Feedback please, thnx.

Intbel · 03-04-2006, 11:06 PM

Britannist · 04-04-2006, 04:39 AM

It looks good Intbel. I like it.

Very swish. You have brought the Pound sign to life. The logo looks energetic. :P 8)

girlfriday · 04-04-2006, 10:06 AM

Very futuristic, this is why UKIP needs the Clive Sinclairs and Gerry Andersons of this world to come on board and turn UKIP in "Intra-National Rescue". I can just imagine the music playing now, as UKIP's Thunderbird 2 waits for the Farage Pod or whatever to be joisted up, ready to assist in another area of domestic policy that has left Brits stranded to man-made catastophies.

Presumably, if the party adopts the name "Independence", then the logo would take just a little adjustment, or perhaps the wait for a new name is in fact a precursor to a new logo?

Why doesn't the party adopt a tune, in the same way as the EU has, not so much a new national anthem, just a party tune that could be piped down loudspeakers at elections etc, one that would be associated with UKIP subliminally? Obviously there would be copyright issues if borrowed, but I like the Dambusters theme, after all, it is the great dam of EU bureaucracy and interference that we are trying to bust. Fire away!

Alex McKee · 04-04-2006, 12:18 PM

Nice one Intbel ;-) Seriously though:

Comprehensive Rebrand:

If UKIP must rebrand then let us do it properly. If we are to adopt the name "Independence" then we should go the whole whack, change the party colours to something more . . . tasteful. Rebrand the name, the image, everything.

03-04-2006, 11:05 PM	#16 (permalink)
Intbel Uber Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: In a field near you - look for the yellow and purple tent ... Posts: 4,665	I have been thinking about the logo thingo ... Surprising at it may seem to some, thinking is something of which I am most capable when an unusual amount of effeort is applied. Anyways ... having thought, I concluded two things: 1) Yes, the logo needs changing. 2) As the pound sign is established it is good to keep the pound sign Obviously, then, to keep the pound while changing the logo, there is only one option and that is, change the pound, ennit? So "what is wrong with the current pound?" I asked myself and concluded it is rather like Roger Knapman - solid and dependable while lacking a certain chutzpah. The task then, is to design a pound which whilst being instantly recognised as a pound and having the same colours as it has currently, has chutzpah. It also has to be instantly recogniseable as the UKIP pound while being totally different from the current UKIP pound. So that is what I did. Here is the result - an initial rough put forward for serious consideration. Feedback please, thnx. __________________ We are all free to choose - every step of the way - no exceptions.

04-04-2006, 04:39 AM	#18 (permalink)
Britannist Uber Member Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: London Posts: 22,896	Good Work It looks good Intbel. I like it. Very swish. You have brought the Pound sign to life. The logo looks energetic. :P 8)

04-04-2006, 10:06 AM	#19 (permalink)
girlfriday Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: england Posts: 238	new logo Very futuristic, this is why UKIP needs the Clive Sinclairs and Gerry Andersons of this world to come on board and turn UKIP in "Intra-National Rescue". I can just imagine the music playing now, as UKIP's Thunderbird 2 waits for the Farage Pod or whatever to be joisted up, ready to assist in another area of domestic policy that has left Brits stranded to man-made catastophies. Presumably, if the party adopts the name "Independence", then the logo would take just a little adjustment, or perhaps the wait for a new name is in fact a precursor to a new logo? Why doesn't the party adopt a tune, in the same way as the EU has, not so much a new national anthem, just a party tune that could be piped down loudspeakers at elections etc, one that would be associated with UKIP subliminally? Obviously there would be copyright issues if borrowed, but I like the Dambusters theme, after all, it is the great dam of EU bureaucracy and interference that we are trying to bust. Fire away!

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30-03-2006, 02:05 PM	#11 (permalink)
eublues Uber Member Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 3,129	I agree go a bit soft on the EU issue - though what is happening now to destroy local democracy is ALMOST ENTIRELY because of Prescott bringing in EU regionalisation by stealth.

02-04-2006, 09:36 PM	#13 (permalink)
Colin McNamee Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Somerset Posts: 894	Change the logo, like British Airways, Coke a Cola and a host of others ? Who then changed back. Yeah right. C'mon guys get real. Any more Aunt Sallies ?

03-04-2006, 12:08 AM	#14 (permalink)
brian lee Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: South Essex Posts: 613	Assuming one is seriously interested in day to day problems, one puts forward ideas that are connected with the day to day. It is no use blaming all the problems on the EU. As a councillor one has to do one's best within the system and lobby to try to improve it. - Cutting council tax by 50% is not an option for local councils, and even if every council in the land was controlled by UKIP members they would not be able to make that reduction. Within local authority jurisdiction decisions are made about cutting budgets. One of the big problems is the fact that more than half the cost of local authority pensions is funded by the council tax payer. As there is a shortfall for the final salary schemes, someone has to pay. The cost will be borne by either council tax payers, many of them on poor pensions themselves, or central government. - That is a serious question. If, for example, the government cannot pay because of some EU Rule, that is their problem. We should still blame the government not the EU. Anyone who reads Booker's column in the Sunday Telegraph will know that EU directives are one thing, what comes out from government departments are another.

03-04-2006, 01:25 PM	#15 (permalink)
Jerusalem Junior Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: London Posts: 56	I don't even know entirely what UKIP's views on local goverment is. I would like - abolition of council tax in favour of local income tax - an invoice on where the money goes - and an assessment on every council employee and what he or she does. Isn't it stricking how so many didn't even notice when they went on strike? What exactly do most of them do? - And therefore a reduction in tax - it can be done! Our council could save money by not translating their local government leaflet INTO phpbb_20 different languages. - Greater incentives for people to improve their homes. If we do anything up we just go up a band, so why bother? But the council should encourage people to work on their houses. Maybe tax breaks for exterior improvements. - Stricter rules on good behaviour for council tennants. People who make council estates grim should be isolated, as in Dundee, and if they don't improve, kicked out. - A commitment to better architecture and promises to knock down eyesores. I haven't seen or heard any activity in my part of London, though I know UKIP have a candidate in my ward.

03-04-2006, 11:06 PM	#17 (permalink)
Intbel Uber Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: In a field near you - look for the yellow and purple tent ... Posts: 4,665

04-04-2006, 12:18 PM	#20 (permalink)
Alex McKee Moderator Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Gloucester Posts: 6,666	Nice one Intbel ;-) Seriously though: Comprehensive Rebrand: If UKIP must rebrand then let us do it properly. If we are to adopt the name "Independence" then we should go the whole whack, change the party colours to something more . . . tasteful. Rebrand the name, the image, everything.