Asbos are 'cool'

johnwest · 12-03-2006, 02:23 PM

It has been revealed the many street thugs now regard asbos as essential 'street cred'. Asbos are seen as 'status symbols' according to Prof Aynsley-Green, advisor to the government.

In some areas of the country every single asbo has been breached by the offender. In West Yorkshire they were 1,301 breaches of the 439 asbos issued. In Durham there 204 breaches of the 74 issued.

Aynsley-Green also attacked the government for failing to deal with the rise in school bullying. He went on to accuse Blair and co for contributing to public disorder by relaxing the drinking laws.

extra ordinary · 12-03-2006, 05:05 PM

We just need the simple; do the crime - do the time back. plus;
as ukip leaflets say more disiplined prisons - one huge amount more disiplined. Humane, safe and clean but not Butlins.
No drugs tolerated, no sex abuse tolerated, no laptops allowed, no early release schemes -but 5 years well 5years -play up and we add extra.
Work offered for those inside who behave.

Possibilty of learning to read and write 1 of few bonuses for model inmates ?

no ASBO issued. Build prisons and fill them if demand there.
no community police - but real police, Court cases heard fast.
life well pretty much life and a vote on the return of capital punishment.
I am sure us lot couId go on and on.

gfnewman · 14-03-2006, 01:45 PM

I agree with extra ordinary.

So often I've been told that the law is there to protect the innocent. It does nothing of the sort. The law reacts, and it reacts badly hence people living in fear - like the teenager who wore a knife-proof vest and was told to take it off by a policeman. The law could not protect him so he tried protecting himself, only to be told by the law that he wasn't allowed to.

Going back to medieval times, anyone who didn't conform to the social order of the settlement was banished and forfeit to all property - and their life should they return. Unfortunately these rogues banded together and terrorised the settlements so that the innocent had to barricade themselves in.

Now we have prisons with which to barricade these rogues in and yet there is this movement of do-gooders who think these anti-social people can be reformed and let them roam the streets.

I'm in favour of locking them up and throwing away the key if it means I can go out of my door without fear of abuse, robbery, violence and being murdered. But now we're back to the innocent having to barricade themselves in.

Angryjohn · 15-03-2006, 12:57 PM

What happens to them when they break an ASBO?

12-03-2006, 02:23 PM	#1 (permalink)
johnwest Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Suffolk Posts: 827 Party: UKIP	Asbos are 'cool' It has been revealed the many street thugs now regard asbos as essential 'street cred'. Asbos are seen as 'status symbols' according to Prof Aynsley-Green, advisor to the government. In some areas of the country every single asbo has been breached by the offender. In West Yorkshire they were 1,301 breaches of the 439 asbos issued. In Durham there 204 breaches of the 74 issued. Aynsley-Green also attacked the government for failing to deal with the rise in school bullying. He went on to accuse Blair and co for contributing to public disorder by relaxing the drinking laws.

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12-03-2006, 05:05 PM	#2 (permalink)
extra ordinary Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: south east Posts: 196	We just need the simple; do the crime - do the time back. plus; as ukip leaflets say more disiplined prisons - one huge amount more disiplined. Humane, safe and clean but not Butlins. No drugs tolerated, no sex abuse tolerated, no laptops allowed, no early release schemes -but 5 years well 5years -play up and we add extra. Work offered for those inside who behave. Possibilty of learning to read and write 1 of few bonuses for model inmates ? no ASBO issued. Build prisons and fill them if demand there. no community police - but real police, Court cases heard fast. life well pretty much life and a vote on the return of capital punishment. I am sure us lot couId go on and on.

14-03-2006, 01:45 PM	#3 (permalink)
gfnewman Junior Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Bristol Posts: 69	I agree with extra ordinary. So often I've been told that the law is there to protect the innocent. It does nothing of the sort. The law reacts, and it reacts badly hence people living in fear - like the teenager who wore a knife-proof vest and was told to take it off by a policeman. The law could not protect him so he tried protecting himself, only to be told by the law that he wasn't allowed to. Going back to medieval times, anyone who didn't conform to the social order of the settlement was banished and forfeit to all property - and their life should they return. Unfortunately these rogues banded together and terrorised the settlements so that the innocent had to barricade themselves in. Now we have prisons with which to barricade these rogues in and yet there is this movement of do-gooders who think these anti-social people can be reformed and let them roam the streets. I'm in favour of locking them up and throwing away the key if it means I can go out of my door without fear of abuse, robbery, violence and being murdered. But now we're back to the innocent having to barricade themselves in.

15-03-2006, 12:57 PM	#4 (permalink)
Angryjohn Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: London Posts: 309	What happens to them when they break an ASBO?