More dirty tricks for the NEC elections

Anthony Butcher · 12-02-2006, 08:52 PM

I have just learned that someone is spreading a rumour about myself regarding my membership of the South West Counties Committee. Apparently I have missed seven of the SWCC meeting in a row, with the obvious implication that I am unreliable.

Can I correct this and point out that I was only very recently elected to the SWCC, as an alternate (i.e. secondary candidate to Martyn Richards), and there have only been two meetings. I attended the second of them.

This party is just unbelievable.

C_steam · 12-02-2006, 08:59 PM

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This party is just unbelievable.

No, the people who started the rumour are.

Tom Wilde · 13-02-2006, 10:03 AM

Yes, probably just some individual idiot, with or without an agenda.

It shouldn't be too difficult for you to work out who it is, in principle. If somebody tells you "I heard a rumour that you...", then ask them who they heard the rumour from. Then ask that person who they heard the rumour from. It probably won't take you more than a couple of steps to reach the source, and it is worth nailing these untruths as early as possible.

Hartlepool · 13-02-2006, 04:18 PM

Not a heavy attack on you Anthony and very easy to refute,and you have already done that anyhow.

Anthony Butcher · 15-02-2006, 12:46 PM

I have now been informed that there will not be an investigation INTO phpbb_this. Lawrence Webb, the London Regional Organiser, who passed on the rumour is not even going to be asked who started the 'rumour'.

Apparently it is perfectly normal and expected for candidates to create false rumours about each other and I am just making a fuss.

Nor does it matter that a senior UKIP staff member is passing on unverified comments to other members about a candidate.

SponPlague · 15-02-2006, 02:09 PM

That is a disgrace, Anthony :evil:

Lynn Riley · 15-02-2006, 04:35 PM

My experience of UKIP elections is confined to the Titford/Atkinson leadership election.

I recognise all these tactics. reused because they work. Know of a few more not yet deployed but might yet be. Letters of apology for 'misunderstanding' sent after the election!

You should consider preventative action if you intend to stand - not just leave it till the last minute.

mkpdavies · 15-02-2006, 07:28 PM

Another poor show from the UKIP leadership.

Lynn Riley · 15-02-2006, 10:36 PM

Depends what the objective is. They are very good at remaining the UKIP leadership. And the most powerful individual is very good at never being the real leader, so someone else takes all the flack.

David Campbell-Bannerman is fresh and bright may well get a grip if helped.

Percentage · 16-02-2006, 08:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Anthony Butcher

Apparently it is perfectly normal and expected for candidates to create false rumours about each other and I am just making a fuss.

:| :cry:

12-02-2006, 08:52 PM	#1 (permalink)
Anthony Butcher Administrator Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Long Ashton, Bristol Posts: 10,208 Party: None	More dirty tricks for the NEC elections I have just learned that someone is spreading a rumour about myself regarding my membership of the South West Counties Committee. Apparently I have missed seven of the SWCC meeting in a row, with the obvious implication that I am unreliable. Can I correct this and point out that I was only very recently elected to the SWCC, as an alternate (i.e. secondary candidate to Martyn Richards), and there have only been two meetings. I attended the second of them. This party is just unbelievable.

15-02-2006, 07:28 PM	#8 (permalink)
mkpdavies Uber Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Woking Posts: 31,183 Party: Libertarian Party	Another poor show from the UKIP leadership. __________________ http://brits4ronpaul.blogspot.com/ http://wokinglibertarians.blogspot.com/ http://lpuk.org My ignore list Labour, Blue Labour, Lib Dems

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13-02-2006, 10:03 AM	#3 (permalink)
Tom Wilde Moderator Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: London. Posts: 2,914	Yes, probably just some individual idiot, with or without an agenda. It shouldn't be too difficult for you to work out who it is, in principle. If somebody tells you "I heard a rumour that you...", then ask them who they heard the rumour from. Then ask that person who they heard the rumour from. It probably won't take you more than a couple of steps to reach the source, and it is worth nailing these untruths as early as possible.

13-02-2006, 04:18 PM	#4 (permalink)
Hartlepool Uber Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: North East England Posts: 6,817 Party: Popular Democrats	Not a heavy attack on you Anthony and very easy to refute,and you have already done that anyhow.

15-02-2006, 12:46 PM	#5 (permalink)
Anthony Butcher Administrator Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Long Ashton, Bristol Posts: 10,208 Party: None	I have now been informed that there will not be an investigation INTO phpbb_this. Lawrence Webb, the London Regional Organiser, who passed on the rumour is not even going to be asked who started the 'rumour'. Apparently it is perfectly normal and expected for candidates to create false rumours about each other and I am just making a fuss. Nor does it matter that a senior UKIP staff member is passing on unverified comments to other members about a candidate.

15-02-2006, 02:09 PM	#6 (permalink)
SponPlague Uber Member Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Zurich Posts: 3,176	That is a disgrace, Anthony :evil:

15-02-2006, 04:35 PM	#7 (permalink)
Lynn Riley Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Chepstow Posts: 256	My experience of UKIP elections is confined to the Titford/Atkinson leadership election. I recognise all these tactics. reused because they work. Know of a few more not yet deployed but might yet be. Letters of apology for 'misunderstanding' sent after the election! You should consider preventative action if you intend to stand - not just leave it till the last minute.

15-02-2006, 10:36 PM	#9 (permalink)
Lynn Riley Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Chepstow Posts: 256	Depends what the objective is. They are very good at remaining the UKIP leadership. And the most powerful individual is very good at never being the real leader, so someone else takes all the flack. David Campbell-Bannerman is fresh and bright may well get a grip if helped.