Election Crew....

UKIP MAN · 12-10-2005, 08:12 AM

there seems to be a lot of discussion about a election crew going about.

this is what I wrote and took for disscussion for the £echlade Group.

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After the farce of the Cheadle by election we need to get a plan for a state of readiness.

We need

1. A fund to be drawn on. (The Lechlade Fund)

2. A list of people who can be relied upon. (The Lechlade Crew)

3. Accommodation for people to stay. (The Lechlade Inn)

1. A fund to be drawn on.

The Lechlade group fund. (this would make us more respectable and believable)

This doesn’t have to be real money in the bank but it would help. If we can ask people to have a few pounds set aside for emergencies such as “The Cheadle experience” then we can call in pledges when required, assuming people can be held responsible for their pledges. And also I am willing and Im sure that other people may be to have a direct debit INTO phpbb_an account for such circumstances.
A bank account could be set up with responsible people to oversee the trust with all the legal requirements.

2. A list of people who can be relied upon.

When it come to Elections and By-elections it seems to be the case of “is there anyone out there that can help” what we need is a list of volunteers in areas that can be mobilised to go to different parts of the country to help out with canvassing,

Since I have started with all this I have been very uniformed in what I have been doing and I am finding out different things all the time, such as “knocking up” when I was placed outside of the polling station and given a little form to take the polling numbers I had to ask “what for?” only to discover that people had pledge to Vote for us and when you had got all the numbers and checked them off you went around to there house to get them to go and vote. As I didn’t know this I thought we didn’t have enough people to do this so it was really a waste of time.

So we need people to actually take more part in the canvassing and on the day of the vote. If we had a data base of volunteers that could get about the country and be called upon. This also would need some kind of funding to help out if people are doing it on a regular basis and need to travel.

3. Accommodation for people to stay.

If we do mobilise people INTO phpbb_helping with canvassing around the country we will also need somewhere for them to stay, so with this in mind we would need another data base of UKIP members that would be prepared to put someone up for one or two nights in the area.

If we can get all of the party Regional Organisers and secretaries, to make a list for there own area of people that would be willing to put people up, then we could compile a UK list.
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Any comments, It might be pie in the sky but if we had something like this.

if anyone has any comments please lets hear them...

good or bad...

mkpdavies · 12-10-2005, 10:48 AM

I agree fully, however we do need to make sure the group doesn't step on anyone elses toes. Indeed all initital Lechlade by-election activity should be contacting the local branch in question, offering assistance, funds and whatever else we can do. If the branch turns around and says we are not running anyone, then we approach the NEC to offer a candidate.

If they refuse, then I guess Jihad is the only answer.

Darren · 12-10-2005, 01:04 PM

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Originally Posted by mkpdavies

If they refuse, then I guess Jihad is the only answer.

Very reassuring, it makes it hard to understand why Nigel, Mark etc. have any concerns at all regarding the MA.

mkpdavies · 12-10-2005, 01:49 PM

I better call my Muslim brothers off then.

UKIP MAN · 12-10-2005, 02:07 PM

Quote:

we do need to make sure the group doesn't step on anyone elses toes. Indeed all initital Lechlade by-election activity should be contacting the local branch in question, offering assistance, funds and whatever else we can do.

this point was a topic of disscusion, which is only right but we cannot offer assistance if there is nothing in place,

for instance, Local meeting:

bye-election next week, bus laid on, any voluteers?

what planning.....

mkpdavies · 12-10-2005, 02:12 PM

If there is no local set up, then it will be tough anyway, getting sigs etc.

However, each time a by-election is called, the group should contact Steve Alsion to offer what help it can. If he says no we aren't going to bother, even if the group helps out with funds, people etc, then the question why would have to be asked.

Darren · 12-10-2005, 08:15 PM

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Originally Posted by mkpdavies

I better call my Muslim brothers off then.

Yes, put them back in their box, you don’t need them.

Just knowing you have them, and are willing to use them, will probably be enough.

Darren · 13-10-2005, 06:20 PM

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Originally Posted by UKIP MAN

Since I have started with all this I have been very uniformed in what I have been doing and I am finding out different things all the time, such as “knocking up” when I was placed outside of the polling station and given a little form to take the polling numbers I had to ask “what for?” only to discover that people had pledge to Vote for us and when you had got all the numbers and checked them off you went around to there house to get them to go and vote. As I didn’t know this I thought we didn’t have enough people to do this so it was really a waste of time.

If you’re talking about the local council by-election in Barking then, I hope I can clear up a couple of points.

The Ward was leafleted in the weeks running up to polling day, 5 different leaflets in 3 separate leaflet drops, each leaflet drop was a specific local Ward leaflet, plus a generic UKIP leaflet on two of the drops.

The Ward was canvassed, and the information gleaned was transferred to our copy of the Register of electors. (voter intentions)

We had UKIP Tellers, at the polling station, taking the voters numbers, which were collected at various times, and taken back to the UKIP Committee rooms (pub :!: ),this information was collated with the canvas results, for the “knocking up” phase.

Please, please Ukipman don’t think all your hard work was “really a waste of time”. It was not.

If we had thrown the Teller slips away it still wouldn’t have been a waste of time, I think it is important that we fly the flag, by having UKIP representation outside of the polling stations, like the other parties, to show that we are serious. It’s advertising really, but advertising to an important group of people, the ones that actually vote.

We now have valuable canvass information that can be built on, and may be a great deal of use in the future.

We all have more experience.

Given all of our efforts, the fact that our candidate got INTO phpbb_the papers, we had a loud speaker runs at various time in the day, then the election result itself was disappointing. I honestly thought that we could have got 3rd, or optimistically 2nd place.

The murder of 52 people in London a week earlier, by Islamic extremists, may have lost us votes to the BNP. We were unlucky, but put INTO phpbb_the context of what being unlucky really meant to those poor people in London, I know it sounds like a pathetic excuse.

Quote:

Originally Posted by UKIP MAN

When it come to Elections and By-elections it seems to be the case of “is there anyone out there that can help” what we need is a list of volunteers in areas that can be mobilised to go to different parts of the country to help out with canvassing,

This is vital, I agree with you 157%, please keep pushing for this to happen, well done that Ukipman.

PS. Ukipman - Re the ID Referendum on ukip.org I think I said June, but it may have been July, I get confused they both begin with a “J”.

UKIP MAN · 13-10-2005, 06:25 PM

it was a damn hot day that day darren wasnt it :shock:

Swivel Eyed Fanatic · 13-10-2005, 08:48 PM

Steve Allison is Westminster By-election Director, local council by-election organisers should be talking to Jonathon Arnott who is behind UKIP Local I belive. At the conference he was talking about printing leaflets and that kind of support. Also at the Conference the South West announced they had got funding for a high speed colour printer, cost £12,000, don't know who will be allowed to use it though????

12-10-2005, 10:48 AM	#2 (permalink)
mkpdavies Uber Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Woking Posts: 31,182 Party: Libertarian Party	I agree fully, however we do need to make sure the group doesn't step on anyone elses toes. Indeed all initital Lechlade by-election activity should be contacting the local branch in question, offering assistance, funds and whatever else we can do. If the branch turns around and says we are not running anyone, then we approach the NEC to offer a candidate. If they refuse, then I guess Jihad is the only answer. __________________ http://brits4ronpaul.blogspot.com/ http://wokinglibertarians.blogspot.com/ http://lpuk.org My ignore list Labour, Blue Labour, Lib Dems

12-10-2005, 01:49 PM	#4 (permalink)
mkpdavies Uber Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Woking Posts: 31,182 Party: Libertarian Party	I better call my Muslim brothers off then. __________________ http://brits4ronpaul.blogspot.com/ http://wokinglibertarians.blogspot.com/ http://lpuk.org My ignore list Labour, Blue Labour, Lib Dems

12-10-2005, 02:12 PM	#6 (permalink)
mkpdavies Uber Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Woking Posts: 31,182 Party: Libertarian Party	If there is no local set up, then it will be tough anyway, getting sigs etc. However, each time a by-election is called, the group should contact Steve Alsion to offer what help it can. If he says no we aren't going to bother, even if the group helps out with funds, people etc, then the question why would have to be asked. __________________ http://brits4ronpaul.blogspot.com/ http://wokinglibertarians.blogspot.com/ http://lpuk.org My ignore list Labour, Blue Labour, Lib Dems

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UKIP MAN Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 1,898	it was a damn hot day that day darren wasnt it :shock:

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Swivel Eyed Fanatic Member Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Tees Valley Sub-Region Posts: 331	Steve Allison is Westminster By-election Director, local council by-election organisers should be talking to Jonathon Arnott who is behind UKIP Local I belive. At the conference he was talking about printing leaflets and that kind of support. Also at the Conference the South West announced they had got funding for a high speed colour printer, cost £12,000, don't know who will be allowed to use it though????