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Old 01-09-2005, 10:08 AM   #1 (permalink)
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The Democracy Challenge found that:
Despite having a lot to say on democracy, Labour's
manifesto was surprisingly weak in some areas.This was
particularly true of House of Lords reform,an area which
has given them trouble during their time in Government.
However Labour was strong in terms of the rights
agenda, particularly for women and minorities. Despite
having a great track record for democratic reform,Labour
found themselves behind many other parties in the
Democracy Challenge.
The Conservatives were weak on rights.They proposed
withdrawing from the Geneva Convention on refugees;
seeking withdrawal from the European Social Chapter; and
‘reviewing’ the Human Rights Act in an unspecified way. In
contrast, their commitment to democratic reform was
surprisingly strong and included a fully elected House of
Lords and more power for local councils.
The Liberal Democratswere the strongest of the three
main parties in terms of democracy and civil liberties,
supporting democratic reform to make all votes count
and democratising the House of Lords Sadly, they were
disappointingly shy about putting these issues higher on
the election agenda. They were however behind Labour
on women’s and minorities’ rights.
Plaid Cymru had a strong agenda for rights and
democracy. The Scottish Nationalists were far weaker
on both counts,although they have some interesting
proposals for introducing direct democracy.
In terms of the other parties, Respect were strong on
rights of minorities and civil liberties, but were weak on
democracy issues. The Green Party performed well
overall. Neither UKIP nor Veritas appeared to have
much to say on anything but the EU.
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Old 01-09-2005, 10:36 AM   #2 (permalink)
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A HUGE MISTAKE by UKIP Leaders/Policy makers. Either that,or that's the way forward as they see it,if that's the case then they certainly are only a Pressure Group.


It must be time for not only changes to be made, but for changes to be seen to be in the process of taking place.


UKIP must go flat out and start now with the Livingston byelection looming,another also ran position does not mean the end of everything,but being constantly pulled-up or being declared as a non runner again will mean that UKIP will be fully retired by next season.


UKIP,IN IT TO WIN IT...
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Old 01-09-2005, 11:22 AM   #3 (permalink)
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I'm sorry but you've fallen for a biased, PC report. What is meant by: 'behind Labour on women's and minorities' rights'? Who is judging this and by what criteria? The report assumes that a fully elected House of Lords is pro-democracy and anything short of this is bad, as is withdrawl from the European Social Chapter.

The report appears to be very pro LD, is openly pro-PR, intimating that only that policy is properly pro-democracy. And Freudian slip, 'democratising' the House of Lords?? :wink:

UKIP clearly iterates, and reiterates and shouts till it's blue in the face, that Brussels is an undemocratic institution and leaving it is necessary to restore democracy. Why do these idiots assume that the EU is nothing to do with democracy?

Badly written pro-PC Lib Dem report that should be pulled to pieces, not used to show how right they (who?) are with regard to UKIP policy.
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