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Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: Reading
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The Democracy Challenge found that:
Despite having a lot to say on democracy, Labour's manifesto was surprisingly weak in some areas.This was particularly true of House of Lords reform,an area which has given them trouble during their time in Government. However Labour was strong in terms of the rights agenda, particularly for women and minorities. Despite having a great track record for democratic reform,Labour found themselves behind many other parties in the Democracy Challenge. The Conservatives were weak on rights.They proposed withdrawing from the Geneva Convention on refugees; seeking withdrawal from the European Social Chapter; and ‘reviewing’ the Human Rights Act in an unspecified way. In contrast, their commitment to democratic reform was surprisingly strong and included a fully elected House of Lords and more power for local councils. The Liberal Democratswere the strongest of the three main parties in terms of democracy and civil liberties, supporting democratic reform to make all votes count and democratising the House of Lords Sadly, they were disappointingly shy about putting these issues higher on the election agenda. They were however behind Labour on women’s and minorities’ rights. Plaid Cymru had a strong agenda for rights and democracy. The Scottish Nationalists were far weaker on both counts,although they have some interesting proposals for introducing direct democracy. In terms of the other parties, Respect were strong on rights of minorities and civil liberties, but were weak on democracy issues. The Green Party performed well overall. Neither UKIP nor Veritas appeared to have much to say on anything but the EU.
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IF THE EU WAS THE ANSWER, IT MUST HAVE BEEN A STUPID QUESTION! |
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Join Date: Aug 2005
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A HUGE MISTAKE by UKIP Leaders/Policy makers. Either that,or that's the way forward as they see it,if that's the case then they certainly are only a Pressure Group.
It must be time for not only changes to be made, but for changes to be seen to be in the process of taking place. UKIP must go flat out and start now with the Livingston byelection looming,another also ran position does not mean the end of everything,but being constantly pulled-up or being declared as a non runner again will mean that UKIP will be fully retired by next season. UKIP,IN IT TO WIN IT... |
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Join Date: Jul 2005
Posts: 1,237
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I'm sorry but you've fallen for a biased, PC report. What is meant by: 'behind Labour on women's and minorities' rights'? Who is judging this and by what criteria? The report assumes that a fully elected House of Lords is pro-democracy and anything short of this is bad, as is withdrawl from the European Social Chapter.
The report appears to be very pro LD, is openly pro-PR, intimating that only that policy is properly pro-democracy. And Freudian slip, 'democratising' the House of Lords?? :wink: UKIP clearly iterates, and reiterates and shouts till it's blue in the face, that Brussels is an undemocratic institution and leaving it is necessary to restore democracy. Why do these idiots assume that the EU is nothing to do with democracy? Badly written pro-PC Lib Dem report that should be pulled to pieces, not used to show how right they (who?) are with regard to UKIP policy. |
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