DONALD MACKAY

Anybody able to provide an explanation as to why UKIP do not reserve a place on the NEC for a candidate each from Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland in order to offer true representation from throughout the United Kingdom

mkpdavies

I sugested this a while ago. Didn't get any response.

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Roger Gough

Welcome Donald, I often wonder why there are so few English in the current New Labour cabinet

C_steam

why?

or why not one for each county, or one for each ethnic group, or so on?

This political correctness of 'representation' is part of Blairs problem. Don't let it happen to UKIP - let the NEC be the best people for the job, fairly and democratically elected by the membership.

Paul Birch

I agree. I notice that the fetish for "true representation" seldom seems to extend to England, which on the basis of population ought to have a guaranteed 15 places on the NEC - or on a membership basis about 40.

mkpdavies

England is fairly well represented in UKIP I think.

I don't see any harm in a British party making sure each of it's countries has some sort of representation. Currently the majority of members are English, thus it's pretty tough for other countries members to get any representation in the party.

Perhaps it should work on a proportional basis, either on party membership, or make up of country. As UKIP aspires to run the whole of Britain, I think it should be based on make up of country.

Then again, English regions may start having a ***** too. Yorkshire for example, London would obviously want the most.

Or UKIP could just become the English Independance Party and team up with the EDP and forget about those pesky Celts.

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mkpdavies

Quick question to Paul and CSteam.

I can be swayed on this argument. Need you to answer this question first though.

Would you rather see your MP come from your area, or would you be happier to get to vote for a selection of candiates from all over the place to represent your constituency?

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Paul Birch

Everywhere is fairly represented because no places are allocated to particular regions. Any sort of quota would create unfairness where none exists now, even if the NEC were expanded sufficiently (to at least 40 members) to give seats to NI and Wales. Why should a Scottish member be restricted to voting only for the Scottish seat, or for Scottish candidates, for instance? But if he weren't so restricted you'd be cheating the English members.

Paul Birch

I want a free choice as to whom I appoint as my representative in Parliament. If there had to be a vote with winners and losers (which there doesn't) then I would still prefer to have the choice of voting for a local candidate or for anyone else, preferably by STV (those with the greatest number of votes getting the available seats). In any case, breaking things down INTO phpbb_constituencies only makes sense when you have a lot of seats and so many candidates the voters might otherwise be unable to keep track.

mkpdavies

I don't want to see anyone cheated. My big concern though, is UKIP are falling INTO phpbb_the same trap as the Tories. UKIP's support base is limited by the fact UKIP is seen as a southern English party.

How does UKIP prove it wants to represent all?

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