Bluemerle

Can we start a thread purely for quotes from Europhiles:-

I'll start it off.

Arnold Toynbee said "And all the time we are denying with our lips what we are doing with our hands ...."

Bluemerle

Here are some quotes which you can use to make your case for Britain's withdrawal from the EU.

Quotes by Kenneth Clarke.........(courtesy of Denis Cooper). Bear in mind that Kenneth Clarke boasts that he never read the Maastricht Treaty.

"The ERM had no effect on British business"; "A Single European Currency would not be a major constitutional issue";

"The Maastricht Treaty is the same as the NATO Treaty.

European Journal, 1997: "We see no case for further transfer of powers."

Oct 5th, 1999 Conservative party fringe meeting - "There is nobody suggesting the creation of a European Army in any European government ... there is nobody suggesting the creation of a federal superstate."

October 14th 1999, BBC Breakfast News: "It's a myth that we're all here as a part of some Brussels plot to create a federal superstate. There's no serious politician in the rest of the European Union who thinks we're all about creating a United States of Europe."

May 26th 2005, BBC "This Week": "It was a silly idea to hold a referendum about it .... it shows the folly of having a referendum about a complicated legal document, people will vote on frivolous (?) things." - on France's No vote.

July 17th 2005, BBC, discussing the legacy of Edward Heath: “Europe will remain a loose association of nation states”.
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"The European parliament and the commission are allies against the member states. Together we have to prevent the member states from taking back power." - President of the European parliament, speaking on Radio 4, July 1999

"When we build the house of Europe, the future will belong to Germany." Helmut Kohl, speaking in Germany, unaware that reporters were present

"Germany, as the biggest and most powerful economic member state will be the leader [of Europe] whether you like it or not." Theo Waigel, former German finance minister, 1997

"The top priority is to turn the EU INTO phpbb_a single political state." Joshka Fischer, German foreign minister, quoted in The Times, November 1998

"Never again must there be a destabilising vacuum of power in central Europe. If European integration were not to progress, Germany might be called upon, or tempted by its own security constraints, to try to effect the stabilisation on its own and in the traditional way." German CDU parliamentary committee on European affairs, September 1994

"Why does Europe need fifteen foreign ministers when one is enough? Why do member states still need national armies? One European army is enough." Hans Eichel, German finance minister, November 1999

"The time for individual nations [in Europe] having its own tax, employment and social policies is definitely over. We must finally bury the erroneous ideas of nations having sovereignty over foreign and defence policies. National sovereignty will soon prove itself to be a product of the imagination."
Gerhard Schröder, January 1999.

"How, with the system of institutions that exists today, are 30 states suppposed to balance interests, take decisions and then act? There is a simple answer: the transition from a union of states to full parliamentarisation as a European Federation. This means nothing less than a European parliament and a European government that really do exercise legislative and executive power."
Joschka Fischer, May 2000

"The process of monetary union goes hand in hand, must go hand in hand, with political integration and ultimately political union. EMU is, and was meant to be, a stepping stone on the way to a united Europe."
Wim Duisenberg, President, European Central Bank

"We need to rebuild the institutional triangle - Commission, Council, Parliament, keep the excellent institutions that were built by the founding fathers and, at the same time, renew them in a very profound way, adapt them to a new century and head towards a United States of Europe … we need to federalise ourselves"
Pierre Moscovici, French Europe Minister, Le Monde, 28 February 2002.

"We don't agree with the Americanisation of the world. . . we are saying that together we can build a new superpower. . . and its name will be Europe"
Pierre Moscovici, French Foreign Minister, 24 May 2001.

Mr. Prodi's remarks corroborate what was said in an interview with a German
MEP on the BBC.

When asked whether the Parliament would take the Prodi Commission to task she replied, "The Parliament and the Commission are allies against the member states. Together we have to prevent the member states from taking back power." [Radio 4, 10 p.m., 20th July 1999]

"We are at present working discreetly with all our might to wrest this
mysterious force called sovereignty out of the clutches of the local nation
states of the world. Professor Arnold Toynbee, in a June l931 speech
before the Institute for the Study of International Affairs in Copenhagen.

spaman

Ya - these are good example of Euro-suppression - they should be somewhere visible that anyone logging onto this site could find.

The ideal place for these really would be the main UKIP site ....