gareth2

He has "admited" that he did not come from a privileged background has he? my goodness, what a brave admission!

I think youl find, that he has admitted that he now is privileged. As you are demonstrating aptly, if you are privileged, your views are often overlooked and ignored, or at best, it is used as a stick to beat you. (its all to do with nu-labors willfull attack on the meritocracy, but now is not the time for that) One would assume it was best he pretended he was still penniless.... perhaps that way people would feel more obliged to answer his questions.

You should stop dismissing him (oh no wait, your not here to help ukip be succesfull, are you...). You should remember, that it takes a special mode of thinking to be succesfull, or to be landed with money from birth. He has made it; you (or should i say, those at UKIP who want to get ahead) should listen to him more than people who are not succesfull, if they want to become succesfull themselves.

Regards,
Gareth.

P.s you got a job going John?

P.p.s porsche is spelt like so, i believe.

Lawrie Boxall

John - here's a lttle aide memoire for you.

John Carter said:

See, this is what I'm talking about - the electorate is generally stupid.
My cat's better at economics than Brown is. Brown is simply doing a Canute - when the downturn comes, it'll come much much harder due to being artificially held back. Folks believed the smoke and mirrors. How on earth do we combat that?


John Carter said:

By the way... ...I didn't mention calling the electorate stupid. I simply stated that we should assume that they're stupid. Big difference.

John Carter

Yep. The electorate is stupid. Knowing that they're stupid and modifying our tactics to suit is a completely different thing than printing "HEY, STUPID" on the top of the manifesto (like Scotgirl appears to think that I'm suggesting).

It's like good parents with a dumb kid. The parents might talk to each other about it ("our kid is a little slow, what can we do to help him/her?") but they don't go up to the kid with "you're stupid!" because that initially harms the kid and later breeds resentment for the parents.

See the difference?

John Carter

In about 6 months' time, yep.

gareth2

That when your selling and moving?

Cause i have other plans for the 2 million in my bank account... heh.

Regards,
Gareth.

P.s you should go on a ranch in montanna, sweet grass ranch. PERFECT. Its about £1000 for a week. Pocket change for a man like you!

Ill send you a wee write up i did of it if you like.

so you dont plan to call them stupid just treat them as if they are . i dont think thats going to work either.

mainly because i dont belive they are stupid so giving them a leaflet treating them as children is hardly likely to get the result you are after John can you imageine getting a leaflet in the post that assumed you had the IQ of a child wouldnt it more likely make you angry at whoever posted it rather than want to vote for them

gareth2

What john says i believe is right; group dynamics (i dont know a lot about, but some).

In school (or good schools) you get streamlined according to cleverness. Leaflets, stuff to be read, should be done along those lines. A hard thing to judge... except it is done already. On average, the wealthier you are, the smarter you are. Which is one reason the different classes have different priorities. Even the lib dems changed thier leaflets according to the area they were hitting. Well, i propose (or more to the point, suggest) that you consider say 2 leaflets per area; One for rich areas, one for poor. The poor leaflets have bigger letters and less text and more pictures... Its to grab you like a sun headline.

The rich areas, you assume they are more interested. Assume they will read the text... make it nice and pretty, but give it a scrap of meat too. With both leaflets have a URL down the bottom, but a slightly different url.

Regards,
Gareth.

I think UKIP would be more honest in thier dealings than that underhand trick, I know it happens but i dont think any party shoudl be doing it

and if UKIP got caught they would be able to watch their credibility fly out of the window in whatever consituancy it is

gareth2

What do you mean, caught? why is it underhand? what is wrong with it? why do you have any objections?

They could just find out the % of papers sold in an area, thats it.

So areas with a high sale of "the sun" or mirror, red tops, get the big print, big picture (and your cartoons), high impact style leaflet.

Areas with large broadsheet sales get the more in depth leaflet.

Areas with high guardian sales you leave to the lib dems, save your money.

F*** me, im good!

Regards,
Gareth.

John Carter

Hopefully I'll be gone and settled by then.

Gotta say, I had been looking at ranches in Montana and Colorado. Trouble is, with the current events in the US it's be like jumping from pan to fire. Plus I'm not overly keen on the US tax rates.