Could we ever unite?

Jean Pool · 19-05-2005, 10:49 PM

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Originally Posted by smooveOp

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Originally Posted by Jean Pool

The Freedom Party standing( who could poll very well)

Aside: Steve and Sharron Edwards eh? Why could THEY poll well?

Check out their site for yourself (yes, I know what you're digging at). But you are being very dismissive of the central issue here (perhaps deliberately). Look at the reality of this. Any real winners...?

smooveOp · 19-05-2005, 10:50 PM

...qui? Moi????

Jean Pool · 19-05-2005, 10:53 PM

Ok, fair enough. You cannot even clarify if your leader is standing. I won't pursue if you cannot offer reasonable debate.

smooveOp · 19-05-2005, 10:54 PM

Look - I REALLY don't know.

I'd say if I did.

Sorry.

Jean Pool · 19-05-2005, 11:06 PM

Hey, dude!

B.A.Ware · 20-05-2005, 12:26 AM

smooveOp I like your question, there is no real difference between ukip and Veritas the only difference is the leadership not people like our selves.
What is ironic is that we the poor foot soldiers all believe in the same thing yet it is the people at the top divide us. I do believe after this election ukip will change and I really hope some of the people that have left will come back and together we will achieve what we all want

smooveOp · 20-05-2005, 09:20 AM

OK - My feeling is that UKIP will have to change a bit though.

Bear in mind that quite a few Veritas members, like myself, were never part of UKIP in the first place.

Are there any realistic hopes of it changing in the furture?

mkpdavies · 20-05-2005, 09:27 AM

If it doesn't change it will lose most of it's current members (including me).

I would welcome any Veritas members in, except leadership. As I expect Veritas people wouldn't come over unless our leadership changes significantly, I think we can all see what the sticking point is here.

gareth2 · 20-05-2005, 10:38 AM

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Originally Posted by mkpdavies

If it doesn't change it will lose most of it's current members (including me).

I would welcome any Veritas members in, except leadership. As I expect Veritas people wouldn't come over unless our leadership changes significantly, I think we can all see what the sticking point is here.

You should allow in thier taxman, he says some good stuff. Infact, that is the most fully fleshed out are of thier politics, IMO.

Regards,
Gareth.

Edit; i dont mean the above to be a negative comment on anyone else in the leadership of veritas.

Biscuitman · 20-05-2005, 12:04 PM

I remember an announcement by the Roman Catholic church that they would 'merge' with any other denomination/faith as long as the other party accepted the Pope as head of the resultant merger and the other party adopted the pricipals of roman catholisism.

I'd offer the same to any member of Veritas who proposed a 'merger'.

UKIP is, was and will be UKIP. Those who chose to leave and go elsewhere, not just to Veritas, are welcome to rejoin UKIP.

Why on earth would UKIP want or need to merge?

28,000+ members and 12 years standing on one side and a handful of members and 20 or so weeks standing on the other - hmmm, hard one to call.

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mkpdavies Uber Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Woking Posts: 30,604	If it doesn't change it will lose most of it's current members (including me). I would welcome any Veritas members in, except leadership. As I expect Veritas people wouldn't come over unless our leadership changes significantly, I think we can all see what the sticking point is here. __________________ http://brits4ronpaul.blogspot.com/ http://wokinglibertarians.blogspot.com/ http://lpuk.org My ignore list Labour, Blue Labour, Lib Dems

20-05-2005, 12:04 PM	#30 (permalink)
Biscuitman Uber Member Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Reading Posts: 3,486	I remember an announcement by the Roman Catholic church that they would 'merge' with any other denomination/faith as long as the other party accepted the Pope as head of the resultant merger and the other party adopted the pricipals of roman catholisism. I'd offer the same to any member of Veritas who proposed a 'merger'. UKIP is, was and will be UKIP. Those who chose to leave and go elsewhere, not just to Veritas, are welcome to rejoin UKIP. Why on earth would UKIP want or need to merge? 28,000+ members and 12 years standing on one side and a handful of members and 20 or so weeks standing on the other - hmmm, hard one to call. __________________ IF THE EU WAS THE ANSWER, IT MUST HAVE BEEN A STUPID QUESTION!

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19-05-2005, 10:50 PM	#22 (permalink)
smooveOp Senior Member Join Date: May 2005 Location: Middlesex Posts: 571	...qui? Moi????

19-05-2005, 10:53 PM	#23 (permalink)
Jean Pool Senior Member Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 884	Ok, fair enough. You cannot even clarify if your leader is standing. I won't pursue if you cannot offer reasonable debate.

19-05-2005, 10:54 PM	#24 (permalink)
smooveOp Senior Member Join Date: May 2005 Location: Middlesex Posts: 571	Look - I REALLY don't know. I'd say if I did. Sorry.

19-05-2005, 11:06 PM	#25 (permalink)
Jean Pool Senior Member Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 884	Hey, dude!

20-05-2005, 12:26 AM	#26 (permalink)
B.A.Ware Moderator Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Birmingham Posts: 4,170 Party: UKIP	smooveOp I like your question, there is no real difference between ukip and Veritas the only difference is the leadership not people like our selves. What is ironic is that we the poor foot soldiers all believe in the same thing yet it is the people at the top divide us. I do believe after this election ukip will change and I really hope some of the people that have left will come back and together we will achieve what we all want

20-05-2005, 09:20 AM	#27 (permalink)
smooveOp Senior Member Join Date: May 2005 Location: Middlesex Posts: 571	OK - My feeling is that UKIP will have to change a bit though. Bear in mind that quite a few Veritas members, like myself, were never part of UKIP in the first place. Are there any realistic hopes of it changing in the furture?