Gay marriage?

Jean Pool · 19-05-2005, 10:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Intbel

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Some men really enjoy a drag on a fat cigar now and again. I don't smoke, myself.

I don't have a problem with those who care to do so - as long as they don't wave it in my face..... :wink:

Just don't breathe fresh air all over me then and we'll get on just fine >cough<

Light my fire....teaser.

Intbel · 19-05-2005, 10:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Jean Pool

Light my fire....teaser.

Jean Pool · 19-05-2005, 10:22 PM

Oh, my lord...I'm all agog!.....Nurse - get me a stiff (damn)...just get me a sherry....QUICKLY! :P

And ten woodbines....

Intbel · 19-05-2005, 11:34 PM

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Oh, my lord...I'm all agog!.....Nurse - get me a stiff (damn)...just get me a sherry....QUICKLY! :P
And ten woodbines....

Sorry, have to settle for Corona.

Enough o' this ... time for zedz

Jean Pool · 19-05-2005, 11:39 PM

That'll do..nicely. 8) There are a few ways to remove bottle tops.

What a veritable spread >ahem<....

ops:

Paul Denison · 20-05-2005, 12:43 AM

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That's right.

Jesus never actually spoke of homosexuality let alone condemned it.

Except for the fact that Jesus is God, God is Jesus. God didn't approve of the act back in the Old Testament. Jesus said that He hadn't come to replace the law (as, of course, these were His laws anyways), so the law still stands.

How do you know God didn't approve have you interviewed the supreme being yourself personally?
Just somebody wrote a book some time back doesn't mean to say that it is the word of God, only what someone is claiming is the word of God.

And before I invoke the wroth of the religious fraternity, I do believe in God, but Im not so sure about religion.

Hudson · 20-05-2005, 02:46 AM

Politics and religion should not be mixed. Politics can sometimes be an objective science, religion is always a question of faith.

You've either got faith or you haven't. The whole point of faith is that it does not require proof, otherwise it would not be faith, it would be science. You cannot negotiate faith like political ideology.

Ignoring the whole religion thing, is it right that gay marriage should be equated with normal marriage? Is normal marriage even relevant today? Why not give every long term cohabiting couple (or triple, or whatever) the right to inherit each other's property? That would be true equality. Why accord special treatment for any people just because they call themselves married?

Paul Denison · 20-05-2005, 06:31 AM

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Politics and religion should not be mixed. Politics can sometimes be an objective science, religion is always a question of faith.

You've either got faith or you haven't. The whole point of faith is that it does not require proof, otherwise it would not be faith, it would be science. You cannot negotiate faith like political ideology.

Ignoring the whole religion thing, is it right that gay marriage should be equated with normal marriage? Is normal marriage even relevant today? Why not give every long term cohabiting couple (or triple, or whatever) the right to inherit each other's property? That would be true equality. Why accord special treatment for any people just because they call themselves married?

Absolutely, the whole point of marriage is to strengthen a couple's love, as I said before I find it hard personally to comprehend why homosexuallity happens, but society has condemned many and destroyed countless lives with its moral ideals.
There is no reason why a gay couple should not have the same rights as a hetrosexual couple.

Mikeuk · 20-05-2005, 09:17 AM

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P.S. To the Christians who read this, would you be so kind as to show me where Jesus preached that homosexuality is not a good thing please? I have looked, but have been unable to find any reference to himself saying those words though they have been uttered by others. But then, Christianity is founded on the teachings of Jesus, not others, is that not so?

Christianity is founded not solely upon the teachings of Christ but also, by His own command, upon the Israelitish law which forbids and condemns sexual relations between two men.

It is therefore reasonable to suppose that the Christian teachings of two millennia, still strongly upheld by the Roman Catholic Church today, are doctrinally correct.

Speaking for myself I am not concerned what homosexuals do, so long as it is done in private.

The nonsense of a ‘gay wedding’, which makes a mockery of a sacred rite, does not come within this category.

Intbel · 20-05-2005, 10:18 AM

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Christianity is founded not solely upon the teachings of Christ but also, by His own command, upon the Israelitish law which forbids and condemns sexual relations between two men.

Personally I only take any notice of today's U.K. law.
And Jesus' teaching of course.

But each to their own, we are all free to choose, every step of the way, without exception.

Thanks for your response.

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20-05-2005, 02:46 AM	#57 (permalink)
Hudson Member Join Date: May 2005 Location: Staffordshire Posts: 270	Politics and religion should not be mixed. Politics can sometimes be an objective science, religion is always a question of faith. You've either got faith or you haven't. The whole point of faith is that it does not require proof, otherwise it would not be faith, it would be science. You cannot negotiate faith like political ideology. Ignoring the whole religion thing, is it right that gay marriage should be equated with normal marriage? Is normal marriage even relevant today? Why not give every long term cohabiting couple (or triple, or whatever) the right to inherit each other's property? That would be true equality. Why accord special treatment for any people just because they call themselves married?