Rapid Decline?

mkpdavies · 06-04-2005, 08:31 AM

http://news.ft.com/cms/s/8ae3368c-a6...00e2511c8.html

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Businessmen can wield more influence on fringe parties, where their funding can have a huge effect. Paul Sykes, the Yorkshire self-made businessman and property tycoon, was a potent force behind the unexpectedly strong showing of the UK Independence Party in last June's European elections.

Mr Sykes' donation of more than £1m helped to push the UKIP's anti-EU message. His subsequent decision to close his cheque book to the UKIP, after it refused to rule out putting up candidates against Eurosceptic Tory candidates, was an important factor in the party's rapid decline.

I guess they mean in the polls, seeing as we are putting a record amount of candidates forward this time.

06-04-2005, 08:40 AM

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I guess they mean in the polls, seeing as we are putting a record amount of candidates forward this time

probably im not actually sure what UKIP are polling at currently does anyone have a figure

mkpdavies · 06-04-2005, 09:12 AM

Varies from 1% to 6% from what I have seen.

Then there was that London poll that said 40% and and internet one that said 17%.

Polls are biased in the main. We are always lumped in with other, which MUST lower the real score.

06-04-2005, 10:47 AM

thanks for that, does how the referendum pary did in the past have any bearing on how well you think you will do in this GE

Anthony Butcher · 06-04-2005, 10:57 AM

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Originally Posted by scotgirl

thanks for that, does how the referendum pary did in the past have any bearing on how well you think you will do in this GE

UKIP is a lot bigger and better known than the Referendum party or the UKIP of old. I think that the old results will have little bearing on the current election.

jp · 06-04-2005, 11:28 AM

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Opinion Polls: The main polling news has been the Sky-YouGov survey which has the two main parties level-pegging on 36% each with the Lib Dems on 21%. We have yet to see the detailed figures but it’s is clear that support for UKIP must have declined to 1% or even less.

http://www.politicalbetting.com/

C_steam · 06-04-2005, 12:02 PM

The national polls anyway have little impact on what UKIP is trying to do. We know we have no chance at this time of being a majority party in the house, so most hopes lie on a number of target seats and those where very strong campaigns are being ran. It is the local polls in those areas which will count!

Anthony Butcher · 06-04-2005, 12:22 PM

The Health Concern party has 0% in the national polls, yet has an MP in Wyre Forest

mkpdavies · 06-04-2005, 12:51 PM

That political betting site has been very anti UKIP for some time. I saw the Sky poll and as usual, UKIP were relegated to the "others" bin.

I'm confident UKIP will poll significantly more that 1% percent throughout the country and as C-Steam said, we should do much better in our target seats, to the point of winning some seats.

Veritas no doubt damaged the anti-EU cause a bit and it gives me no satisfaction that the mainstream media is ignoring them.

In their heat of hearts, Veritas members must now realise the timing was wrong. If not then what can I say.

06-04-2005, 12:53 PM

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Originally Posted by mkpdavies

I'm confident UKIP will poll significantly more that 1% percent throughout the country and as C-Steam said, we should do much better in our target seats, to the point of winning some seats.

How many target seats do UKIP have

06-04-2005, 09:12 AM	#3 (permalink)
mkpdavies Uber Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Woking Posts: 30,849 Party: Libertarian Party	Varies from 1% to 6% from what I have seen. Then there was that London poll that said 40% and and internet one that said 17%. Polls are biased in the main. We are always lumped in with other, which MUST lower the real score. __________________ http://brits4ronpaul.blogspot.com/ http://wokinglibertarians.blogspot.com/ http://lpuk.org My ignore list Labour, Blue Labour, Lib Dems

06-04-2005, 12:51 PM	#9 (permalink)
mkpdavies Uber Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Woking Posts: 30,849 Party: Libertarian Party	That political betting site has been very anti UKIP for some time. I saw the Sky poll and as usual, UKIP were relegated to the "others" bin. I'm confident UKIP will poll significantly more that 1% percent throughout the country and as C-Steam said, we should do much better in our target seats, to the point of winning some seats. Veritas no doubt damaged the anti-EU cause a bit and it gives me no satisfaction that the mainstream media is ignoring them. In their heat of hearts, Veritas members must now realise the timing was wrong. If not then what can I say. __________________ http://brits4ronpaul.blogspot.com/ http://wokinglibertarians.blogspot.com/ http://lpuk.org My ignore list Labour, Blue Labour, Lib Dems

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06-04-2005, 10:47 AM	#4 (permalink)
Guest Posts: n/a	thanks for that, does how the referendum pary did in the past have any bearing on how well you think you will do in this GE

06-04-2005, 12:02 PM	#7 (permalink)
C_steam Super Moderator Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Paddling up 5hit creek..... Posts: 7,711	The national polls anyway have little impact on what UKIP is trying to do. We know we have no chance at this time of being a majority party in the house, so most hopes lie on a number of target seats and those where very strong campaigns are being ran. It is the local polls in those areas which will count!

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Anthony Butcher Administrator Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Long Ashton, Bristol Posts: 10,152 Party: None	The Health Concern party has 0% in the national polls, yet has an MP in Wyre Forest