Anthony Butcher

I am preparing a letter to send to both local papers. If anyone spots any errors, please let me know:

Robert Edwards

Mr Butcher, you should carefully consider your statement regarding Polish "immigrants". You are implying that 250,000 Poles came here as immigrants to settle here.
This is not true.
It was reported in the national media at the time, that when the first visitors came here when Poland joined the EU, more than half returned within a day.
With demographic changes, influenced by the indigenous British low birth-rate, there is a need for an infusion of fresh blood INTO phpbb_the nation. Controlled immigration is the only means to correct this trend.
I remember when Spain joined the EU and many people talked in terms of Spanish peasants "swamping" our country. It did not happen.
Poles are just as proud of their nationality as you are. Most would like to live in the land they love. There is nothing wrong with them visiting us ... just as we go there as tourists.
It broadens the mind.

mkpdavies

Do you have much luck with letters in your local rags?

Is there any other avenues of complaint? If they have put a leaflet with a blantant lie on it, could the advertising complaints authority be used in anyway

http://www.asa.org.uk/asa/

I reckon they would have to investigate it. After all they are selling their party with these lies!

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Anthony Butcher

Source? I don't recall seeing anything about that at the time.

Robert Edwards

Unfortunately, I do not keep press clippings of every thing that catches my eye but I do remember this statement in the London Evening Standard (sold in the provinces) after the tabloids made a big noise of the "swamping" effect.
I would ask you to take my word for it because I do not trade in lies.
The whole thing about EU "immigration" was quite exaggerated ... mainly by the tabloid press ... and the Daily Mail, of course.
But there was a mention of them coming over in buses and then many not being very impressed and returning on the next bus.
I think you will find that many of the economic opportunities will be in countries that have been run down. These are mainly the former Eastern Bloc countries. There you will find new investment because it is opened for development. It needs building up from scratch and that is where new prosperity will come.
The entire world is not making a bee-line for South East England. Many of the economic migrants coming here illegally are from beyond the EU borders and they bring nothing with them. The problem of immigration is centred on the asylum problem ... and the blatant abuse of that system.
It is the Labour government that has permitted this abuse, while Michael Howard, as a Home Secretary, let loads of them in before then.
The poor Poles have done nothing wrong.

Anthony Butcher

Of course not - they are just looking for something better. It would be fantastic if we could welcome everyone INTO phpbb_the country, but the sad reality is that it causes problems. The people of Britain own this country and should have a say in who is allowed in. Hence we need a balance between helping others and looking after the people who already live here. At the moment, that balance isn't fair.

Robert Edwards

Of course! I agree with you entirely.
But the problem is also ethical. You might as well say people from Britain should not go anywhere else because they would only be "looking for somewhere better". What is wrong with that?
The British Empire was built by many people who wanted "something better" ... apart from those who simply wanted to exploit others.
It is looking for "somewhere better" that created the lands of Australia, Canada ... and the United States.
It is the motive of the pioneer!
Many Poles came here because they could come here. My German girlfriend came to England in the early 1990s after the collapse of the DDR and the Berlin Wall. I met her when she was here learning English in a language school in my town.
I would fly to Berlin and stay for a week or so and she would return to England.
She is a qualified teacher and works in Potsdam. She did not come here to scrounge or "look for something better". She came because she was given that opportunity after years behind the Iron Curtain.
It is the same with the Poles. They come, have a nose about, and then most return to the country they love. I understand this.
The national loyalty is strong in all European countries. People should not fear Europe as some kind of "melting pot". People dig deeper INTO phpbb_their national roots without isolating themselves.
Try not to be populist for the sake of votes. People can see that.

Independence Now!

"It would be fantastic if we could welcome everyone INTO phpbb_the country" :shock: But if we did that Britain would cease to be British in any meaningful sense. What price withdrawal from the EU and re-establishing our national independence then? :shock: :roll:

Percy the Poodle

Is the fact that you have no problem with mass immigration from eastern europe due to the fact that these people are white and christian :?:

Robert Edwards

Absolutely! Lots of good, healthy white people! Some of those young women are real crackers, also. They are better looking than the local rubbish in my town - foul-mouthed chavs pushing buggies with fags hanging out of their mouths shouting, "See yah lighter!".
All around the world, birds of a feather flock together, nicht wahr?
On the issues of asylum and immigration there are very definite racial undertones, even if they are not expressed. People are now talking in a kind of code without specifically mentioning the "race" word.
I like to be in a room of all white people just as many blacks like to be in a room of all black people. It is called solidarity.