Knapman looking to the exit door ?

Dave · 24-02-2005, 11:51 AM

"Dave," as of this date we do not have a GE date yet.Perhaps it may even be in 2006".

And UKIP will not have a detailed manifesto whenever it is. (you seem to forget, I say this from experience)

"As a former UKIP MEMBER you are fully aware that we are far from being a single issue party".

Wrong, members want more than a single issue, as for the leadership I refer you to my answer above.

It is obviouse to many that disapointment is running high within VeryCrass as they have done nothing in the four weeks they have been around.

How so, I am not disappointed, as said before a fully detailed policy with full media coverage, UKIP put up a poster. Plus of coarse local press has been good aswell.

Roger Knapmans statement informing people that the EU controls our countries borders was for peoples information and was a true statement,that is all.

I wasn't aware that RK had made any such statement, I said your leader blew it.

UKIP are still forming plans,Policy and strategy.We will be informed in due course what these are.

If that is what you believe, fine.

We do not dig or undermine our party or yours.

"VERYCRASS"!!!! I have not and will not call UKIP anything other than UKIP

In future when asked by your press,maybe you should tell them the "truth"and say we are all Euroskeptics instead of making no comment and missing an opportunity to promote getting out of the doomed EU,WHICH IS THE MAIN GOAL.

I have no intention of giving free publicity to UKIP, your leadership whom I regard as the ******* offspring of the tory party, note that is not the membership, it is the leadership and because of them UKIP are part of the problem not the solution (my opinion), so until UKIP are purged of incompetence why should I mention them at all.

Finally,lets all remember who opened this forum,and who has tried to cause friction and confrontation,its still an open forum and the mainstay of attacks and confrontation are not from within the UKIP supporters/members in this Forum.

Sorry missed the point of this bit.

mkpdavies · 24-02-2005, 11:56 AM

Why do you Veritas guys still come here to attack UKIP, what is your motivation.

Please help me understand?

Bobby-Veritas's Boy · 24-02-2005, 12:00 PM

QUOTE FROM MATT OF WOKING
Utter rubbish, Knapman has no intention of stepping down before the election and it really does sadden me to see Veritas are still focused firmly on attacking UKIP as it's primary aim.
Spokespeople from your party are still attacking UKIP and it's members at every opportunity both on this forum and that blog. I am now deeply suspicious of their motives as I know longer think they are anti-EU at all. I have no idea if RKS has sanctioned this behaviour, but the fact he is letting his key people do this means I no longer think Veritas is a serious party.

Matt, you are no stranger to the dirty tricks, look at yesterday you took a quote from a forum where you're not even a member and then did all you could to mis-represent it and me. He who lives by the sword shall die by the sword.
If you want a truce from me just say and it will be done, but don't forget to tell your henchmen

mkpdavies · 24-02-2005, 12:05 PM

1) I have never attacked veritas on either of it's forums.
2) I only ever respond to attacks on UKIP first. I'm not just going to sit here and let touble makers spread outright lies.
3) You publicaly posted a comment and I posted it here to show the contempt you show this forum, what pray, is dirty about that.
4) I have tried to call a truce for ages, you guys don't want to know. I have had it with all of you all. Your aims are not the same as mine, as all you are interested in is making sure your vehicle wins the race. That makes you as bad as the established parties. I see nothing refreshing or new in your approach.

Bobby-Veritas's Boy · 24-02-2005, 12:09 PM

So you are going to take your ball home and nbot play with us naughty boys anymore and am I to take it that the offer of a truce is rejected. Come on lighten up

mkpdavies · 24-02-2005, 12:12 PM

Swear words are appropriate here, but I won't let you have the pleasure.

I could lower myself to your level and post some lies on the straight talking forum, but I can't be bothered. Just accept that I have lost all respect for you, and I won't be wasting any more time on you.

Bobby-Veritas's Boy · 24-02-2005, 12:19 PM

I'm sorry for you, I offer the hand of friendship and peace and you can't even reconise it. I have the greatest respect for you but you do take things too seriously. Oh and by the way the comment about lowering yourself down to my level I found very offensive. One last tip, if you are to survive in politics, you have to remember nothing is personal, this is the unwritten rule. Try to remember that like the rest of us do and like us you may come out the other end with your sanity and hopefully so will we.

24-02-2005, 11:56 AM	#12 (permalink)
mkpdavies Uber Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Woking Posts: 30,604	Why do you Veritas guys still come here to attack UKIP, what is your motivation. Please help me understand? __________________ http://brits4ronpaul.blogspot.com/ http://wokinglibertarians.blogspot.com/ http://lpuk.org My ignore list Labour, Blue Labour, Lib Dems

24-02-2005, 12:05 PM	#14 (permalink)
mkpdavies Uber Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Woking Posts: 30,604	1) I have never attacked veritas on either of it's forums. 2) I only ever respond to attacks on UKIP first. I'm not just going to sit here and let touble makers spread outright lies. 3) You publicaly posted a comment and I posted it here to show the contempt you show this forum, what pray, is dirty about that. 4) I have tried to call a truce for ages, you guys don't want to know. I have had it with all of you all. Your aims are not the same as mine, as all you are interested in is making sure your vehicle wins the race. That makes you as bad as the established parties. I see nothing refreshing or new in your approach. __________________ http://brits4ronpaul.blogspot.com/ http://wokinglibertarians.blogspot.com/ http://lpuk.org My ignore list Labour, Blue Labour, Lib Dems

24-02-2005, 12:12 PM	#16 (permalink)
mkpdavies Uber Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Woking Posts: 30,604	Swear words are appropriate here, but I won't let you have the pleasure. I could lower myself to your level and post some lies on the straight talking forum, but I can't be bothered. Just accept that I have lost all respect for you, and I won't be wasting any more time on you. __________________ http://brits4ronpaul.blogspot.com/ http://wokinglibertarians.blogspot.com/ http://lpuk.org My ignore list Labour, Blue Labour, Lib Dems

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24-02-2005, 11:51 AM	#11 (permalink)
Dave Member Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 229	"Dave," as of this date we do not have a GE date yet.Perhaps it may even be in 2006". And UKIP will not have a detailed manifesto whenever it is. (you seem to forget, I say this from experience) "As a former UKIP MEMBER you are fully aware that we are far from being a single issue party". Wrong, members want more than a single issue, as for the leadership I refer you to my answer above. It is obviouse to many that disapointment is running high within VeryCrass as they have done nothing in the four weeks they have been around. How so, I am not disappointed, as said before a fully detailed policy with full media coverage, UKIP put up a poster. Plus of coarse local press has been good aswell. Roger Knapmans statement informing people that the EU controls our countries borders was for peoples information and was a true statement,that is all. I wasn't aware that RK had made any such statement, I said your leader blew it. UKIP are still forming plans,Policy and strategy.We will be informed in due course what these are. If that is what you believe, fine. We do not dig or undermine our party or yours. "VERYCRASS"!!!! I have not and will not call UKIP anything other than UKIP In future when asked by your press,maybe you should tell them the "truth"and say we are all Euroskeptics instead of making no comment and missing an opportunity to promote getting out of the doomed EU,WHICH IS THE MAIN GOAL. I have no intention of giving free publicity to UKIP, your leadership whom I regard as the ******* offspring of the tory party, note that is not the membership, it is the leadership and because of them UKIP are part of the problem not the solution (my opinion), so until UKIP are purged of incompetence why should I mention them at all. Finally,lets all remember who opened this forum,and who has tried to cause friction and confrontation,its still an open forum and the mainstay of attacks and confrontation are not from within the UKIP supporters/members in this Forum. Sorry missed the point of this bit.

24-02-2005, 12:00 PM	#13 (permalink)
Bobby-Veritas's Boy Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 349	QUOTE FROM MATT OF WOKING Utter rubbish, Knapman has no intention of stepping down before the election and it really does sadden me to see Veritas are still focused firmly on attacking UKIP as it's primary aim. Spokespeople from your party are still attacking UKIP and it's members at every opportunity both on this forum and that blog. I am now deeply suspicious of their motives as I know longer think they are anti-EU at all. I have no idea if RKS has sanctioned this behaviour, but the fact he is letting his key people do this means I no longer think Veritas is a serious party. Matt, you are no stranger to the dirty tricks, look at yesterday you took a quote from a forum where you're not even a member and then did all you could to mis-represent it and me. He who lives by the sword shall die by the sword. If you want a truce from me just say and it will be done, but don't forget to tell your henchmen

24-02-2005, 12:09 PM	#15 (permalink)
Bobby-Veritas's Boy Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 349	So you are going to take your ball home and nbot play with us naughty boys anymore and am I to take it that the offer of a truce is rejected. Come on lighten up

24-02-2005, 12:19 PM	#17 (permalink)
Bobby-Veritas's Boy Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 349	I'm sorry for you, I offer the hand of friendship and peace and you can't even reconise it. I have the greatest respect for you but you do take things too seriously. Oh and by the way the comment about lowering yourself down to my level I found very offensive. One last tip, if you are to survive in politics, you have to remember nothing is personal, this is the unwritten rule. Try to remember that like the rest of us do and like us you may come out the other end with your sanity and hopefully so will we.