British Democracy Forum
Web | Images | Groups | News | Advanced
Google
Worldwide Results UK Focused Results

Go Back   British Democracy Forum > Anti-EU and Euroscepticism > UKIP General Issues


You can remove this advert by logging in or registering
Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 23-02-2005, 10:46 AM   #1 (permalink)
Uber Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Dorset.
Posts: 3,248
Bluemerle is just starting out
Default The man from Italy he say NO.

Italians block European arrest warrant

While Britain engages in its never-ending and never-changing fight about
what was and what was not meant by a particular set of weasel-words that
appeared to give the government and opt-out but actually did not, the
Italian parliament has cheerfully blocked the Bill that was going to put
the European arrest warrant INTO phpbb_Italian law.

Italy is the last country to hold out against the European arrest warrant
that lists 32 different crimes, including the hard-to-define one of
xenophobia, that will do away what is often described as the cumbersome
system of extradition.

Well, of course, it depends on how you look at it. Cumbersomeness may be a
nuisance or it may be quite useful. Anyone who cherishes the idea of
freedom has to oppose the very idea of an "efficient government", whatever
that may be. Actually, the most oppressive governments remain inefficient,
as they have to waste so much time, money and energy on the structure of
oppression.

Extradition treaties with all the paraphernalia of double jeopardy and
having to go through various courts and having to prove grounds for the
request seem like an extremely bad idea. Until you look at the opposite:
people being whisked off to other countries on dubious grounds, accused of
crimes that may or may not be acknowledged as crimes in their own country.

It says something about the British government that this was one of the
first countries to sign up to the European arrest warrant and it says
something about the British media that the whole problem was forgotten in
no time at all.

But the Italians are holding out. A combination of left-wing opposition to
the Bill and Northern League opposition to the warrant as a whole voted it
down, disliking Article 4 that diminishes if not completely destroys the
role of the national Justice Minister.

There have been some exchanges between the unexpected allies, each accusing
the other of hypocrisy and bad attitude but the fact remains that
discussion of the Bill will have to be resumed next week.


# posted by Helen @ 6:34 PM |
http://www.eureferendum.blogspot.com/
Bluemerle is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!FuzzFizz It!
Reply With Quote

You can remove this advert by logging in or registering
Old 23-02-2005, 10:53 AM   #2 (permalink)
Uber Member
 
mkpdavies's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2004
Location: Woking
Posts: 30,604
mkpdavies has some supporters
Send a message via MSN to mkpdavies Send a message via Skype™ to mkpdavies
Default

I get the impression that governments put up a show of defiance sometimes, just to keep the pretence going that they actually care. Sooner or later they will just sign up.

Look at Blairs red lines of defiance, which have already faded to pink and soon to nothing at all.

It's a joke.
__________________
http://brits4ronpaul.blogspot.com/
http://wokinglibertarians.blogspot.com/
http://lpuk.org

My ignore list

Labour, Blue Labour, Lib Dems
mkpdavies is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!FuzzFizz It!
Reply With Quote
Old 25-02-2005, 12:46 AM   #3 (permalink)
Uber Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: In a field near you - look for the yellow and purple tent ...
Posts: 4,665
Intbel is just starting out
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by mkpdavies
It's a joke.
It is? Who's laughing?
__________________
We are all free to choose - every step of the way - no exceptions.
Intbel is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!FuzzFizz It!
Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On



All times are GMT. The time now is 12:54 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.7.0
Copyright ©2000 - 2008, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.

This site is owned and operated by MyCartel Limited © 2007. Hosting: BookFizz.
This site supports Label My Food and Politigg
My latest commercial site: Cell Phone News 2.0 - [Mobile version]

Mobile version

Politishop

Search Engine Friendly URLs by vBSEO 3.1.0